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1 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | userdoe217 | 11162 | ||
May you be blessed too my friend Ed, Yes the Quran teaches that he is sinless and I should accept his word, but if you are going to accept the Quran, then by that argument alone he is not son of God Quran 9:31 They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah. there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him). I believe that his words have been misinterpreted, and some of them may not really be the words of Jesus himself but they were later added. James Dunn in his book The Evidence for Jesus writes: "If they were aprt of the original words of Jesus himself, how could it be that Only John picked them up and None of the others? Call it scholarly skepticism if you like, but I find it almost incredible that such sayings should have been neglected Had they been known as a feature of Jesus' teaching. If the 'I ams' had been part of the original tradition, it is very hard indeed to explain why none of the other three evangelists made use of them." (page 36) I believe the "I ams" he is referring to are: John 8:12, John 10:7, John 11:25, and John 15:1 About the cleansing thru Jesus, are you saying the Father does not love us enough or we are not important enough to pray to him directly that we need to pray to Jesus first? And more importantly did not Jesus set an example for us to Pray to the Father? And What about the prophets and mankind before Jesus? They have been praying to God direct all this time, why now after hundreds of years do we suddenly need cleansing before praying to God? God doesn't love us enough that we can ask him as the Father for something, like Jesus did so often, and did he not say that the Father is greater than him? and he even clarified that the Father is not only HIS father, but anyone can call God "Father", Matthew 23:9 "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And more to the point: John 20:17 Jesus *said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'" If Jesus is God, that means the Father is God of God, correct? How can God have a God? This bewilders me! Now on another note You said "Notice there was many witnesses present and if this were not true secular history would have recorded this attempted lie. " Please do not be offended, I am only presenting the evidence, But does not the Bible teach that the Earth is 10,000 years old? The secular world deny this claim, claiming the earth is billions of years old? The Quran makes no such claim about this young Earth. Does not the Bible claim there was a worldwide flood? The Quran makes no such claim that it was a worldwide flood (again the concept of a worldwide flood is denied in the scientific world). I suggest you should take a look, I think you will find the most beautiful stories in the Quran which you have also read in the Bible. Stories of David, Solomon, Lot, Job, Noah, and so on, except Solomon never had 1000 wives and concubines, nor did he make a temple for the worship of idols (sinless), neither did Lot insestually seduce his daughters night after night (sinless), nor did David commit adultery (sinless), and Noah never got drunk (sinless). These prophets were chosen because they were righteous people. They would never commit such attrocities as the Bible depicts. Infact there are many scientific truths in the Quran such as: All life originated from water. 21:30 Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? The earth is round 21:33 It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course. These are some of the reasons I am still disbelieve in the divinity of Christ. Isa |
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2 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | Morant61 | 11196 | ||
Greetings Isa! My friend, you seem to have very little regard for the Bible. But, even the Quran says that the Bible is from Allah. 3:84 says, "Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."" Doesn't the Quran also say that not one of Allah's words can be changed? So, if the Bible is from Allah, how can it be so wrong? Was Allah not able to protect it? Were mere men able to change Allah's word? In Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Why Jesus prays to his Father | John 10:29 | userdoe217 | 11365 | ||
Yes, he let it happen. It is not a question about what he was able to do, rather than what he did. Just as Christianity came to supercede Judaism. Do you follow the Torah? The Injeel, (translated Gospel) and the Taurat (translated Torah), not specifically the Bible, are the word of God. But like you said. It was changed. 2:106 None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: Knowest thou not that Allah Hath power over all things? |
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4 | How can it be a revelation yet err? | John 10:29 | Morant61 | 11398 | ||
Greetings Isa! Christians do not believe that the Old Testament was replaced by the New Testament. The New Testament is simply the continuation of God's saving acts. Both testaments are fully in accord with one another and equally God's Word. I understand that Muslims believe that Islam has superceded Christianity. However, what I don't understand is the attempts to tear down the Bible. If, under your system of belief, it was a revelation of Allah, then surely it cannot be full of errors in the way that you describe it. This seems to be a contradiction in your faith. In Christ, Tim Moran |
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5 | How can it be a revelation yet err? | John 10:29 | Adamsmasher | 11419 | ||
I don't understand your question related to the Bible vers you chose. Could you let me know what the question is? | ||||||
6 | How can it be a revelation yet err? | John 10:29 | Morant61 | 11425 | ||
Greetings Adamsmasher! This thread started as a discussion with a Muslim friend. It has kind of wandered away from the verse. Sorry for the confusion! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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