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1 | once saved always saved? | John 10:28 | bowler | 207503 | ||
Progolfer190 I am trying to follow your logic and here and I am not suceeding. You said the following - "I don't think so because you can die without repenting of your sins ad getting a bad heart and (i believe) go to hell but if you repent of your sins at the end of your life and you die with a good heart then you will go to heaven." In response to - "once saved always saved?" I am trying to break down what you are saying into parts here - "because you can die without repenting of your sins" This begs the question; How in the world could you get to heaven unless you did repent of your sins and take Jesus Christ as your savior and Lord? Is there some other way to get to heaven than to do that? Is it that you believe that you get saved sometime early in life, or at all, and then because you don't repent of your sins after that "event" when you got saved, that you will "get a bad heart" and go to hell? How does that work really? Is it really possible that a Christian who is truly saved would not repent of their sins on an ongoing basis, is that a Christian? The whole premise of salvation is that the human heart is infinitely wicked and we cannot get to heaven becuase "we have a good heart" becuase we don't have one. Once saved always saved means that once you repent of your sins to Jesus alone, nobody else, not His mother, not to God the Father, not to the Holy Spirit, not to the dead saints, or live angels, but just to Jesus - once you do that for real with a sincere heart, your salvation is complete. There is no waiting around until we see how good you lived when you finally die, or waiting for a man to tell you you are saved after you pray a certain way and go to him to repent of your sins. Salvation is a work of Christ, not of you - you don't have the power to effect salvation by your good works or your bad works, it is not possible, that is why Christ had to do it. The way to salvation is simple; believe Jesus is God, repent of your sins, confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart that He died and rose from the dead and you will be saved. There is no such thing as getting saved and then going to your death and not making it to heaven, it doesn't work that way. Ephesians 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace. blessings abound, bowler |
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2 | once saved always saved? | John 10:28 | azurelaw | 207585 | ||
Dear Bowler, You say : once you repent of your sins to Jesus alone, nobody else, ... not to God the Father ... Could you please elaborate more how would you come to the above conclusion in line with the below verse? Acts 20:21 solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ. Thanks and Shalom Azure |
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3 | once saved always saved? | John 10:28 | bowler | 207766 | ||
Azure, I was away sorry for the long delay in answering you. Why I do believe you are right in one sense and so am I! Question; could a person repent to God the Father without having "faith in Jesus for the forgiveness of their sins"? I doubt it. Which is more what I meant by saying you should repent to Jesus. So many people think they are saved who repented to God, but did not do it in the name of Jesus, do not believe in Jesus and so on - that is what I was referring to, that a person should not just repent to the Father and leave Jesus out of the picture. On the other hand if you repent to Jesus alone, He and the Father are one, you are repenting to God the Father through faith in Jesus. I think what I was trying to say and what you are saying actually kind of go together. But I do see what you are saying that the model we find in the Bible is repenting to the Father in the name of Jesus. John 6:40 "For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day." blessings abound, bowler |
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