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1 | Demon-possessed believer? | Luke 4:33 | WalkingTalkingBible | 123996 | ||
Hi, Vendeak7, and welcome to the forum. Depending on how you define "demon-possessed," a believer can be. When the topic is brought up, many tend to think of the possession in the "Exorcist." However, Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 10:4b - 5, "pulling down strongholds and casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." These are daily activities in which every believer should be involved. "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" Romans 6:16 When you look at "possessed" it means to "have control over." Many Christian lives are filled with depression, anger, unforgiveness, bitterness, pride, and many other ungodly things. They are believers but have not been delivered from those strongholds. Where do these strongholds come from? Certainly not God! "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. . ." Hosea 4:6a There are believers who "float around on cloud nine" and think that because they believe, they are safe from the attacks of the enemy. There is a very good reason Gods tells us to "put on the whole armour." To believe is one thing, but to be free is another. The Holy Ghost empowers believers against the enemy and his spirits, but He's like a loaded gun in the hands of a baby - all power and don't know how to use it (Him). Some take Salvation at face value while the devil with his demons are afflicting their bodies, touching their finances, bothering their minds, and destroying their relationships. Some may think this is okay, but that's not what Jesus says. Yes, the demons acknowledge the Holy Ghost, He is God. However, spiritual ignorance gives them permission into lives. We (Holy Ghost filled believers) have the power (through faith in the Word of God) to pull down those strongholds and get those demons out of our lives. WalkingTalkingBible |
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2 | Demon-possessed believer? | Luke 4:33 | Ray | 124020 | ||
Hi Walking Talking Bible, I would like to talk about a few ways that you and I look at things differently and still not disagree with each other. The first difference would be pointed out by looking at the interpretation of the NKJ and NASB for 2 Corinthians 10:4. 2 Corinthians 10:4, NASB, "for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but *divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. 2 Corinthians 10:4, NKJ, "For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in *God for pulling down strongholds,..." Is the power "divinely powerful" or "mighty in God" or the marginal note in the NASB "mighty before God"? We are saying the same things, but if we say "divinely powerful" then we leave out the pronoun of Deity. My question then is: Are you open to the idea of a filling by the Holy Spirit of holy spirit? I noticed and agreed with you writing in explanation that the Holy Spirit is not an "it", that really you were talking about (Him). My question there however would be: "Do we use Him (it) or do we belong to God?" Do we have the gift of the holy spirit, from the Power? Can we agree with Mark 14:62, "Jesus said, 'I am; and you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven." From the heart, Ray |
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3 | Demon-possessed believer? | Luke 4:33 | WalkingTalkingBible | 124209 | ||
Hi, Ray, I believe that the Holy Ghost, which is God, dwells in the believer after he/she has been filled. I would use "filled" and "dwells within" interchangeably. According to John 14:17b ("but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.") the Holy Spirit, God Himself lives within and not a holy spirit. We belong to God and are used by Him (as opposed to Him being used by us). Going back to 2 Corinthians 10:4, the weapons of our warfare are "mighty through God" (KJV) meaning that the weapons are only mighty by the power of God. Someone who does not have the Holy Spirit dwelling within may have the weapons, but will not be empowered because aside from the power of God, we have no power. Gift, to me, indicates that we cannot earn the Holy Ghost, He will dwell with whomever asks Him to (Luke 11:13b). God is the Power, He is a Spirit (John 4:24) and He is Holy. He is the Spirit that empowers, but no one has His power apart from Him. Even for those of us in whom He dwells, we have no power but the Power that's in us. The Holy Spirit, being a manifestation of God, proceeds from Him (John 15:26) in that He is not less than God, but is God. Jesus also says, "the Father sent Me" meaning that God sent His Word. With the Holy Spirit, God sends His Spirit. Mark 14:26 is still a mystery to me (I haven't studied it in depth) because Revelation 5:6 says that the Lamb was standing in the midst of the Thrown (where God is sitting), but He took the book out of God's right hand. Now I believe that Jesus and God are one, but right now, I can only understand that God has three manifestations but all three are One. Thanks for responding and elaborating, WalkingTalkingBible |
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4 | Demon-possessed believer? | Luke 4:33 | Ray | 124292 | ||
Hi Walking Talking Bible, I will be out of town and away from the computer for a week. If I don't get back with you remind me, please. I would like to talk about a comparison of Mark 14:62 and Mt 26:64 with Mt 24:30. Also, I would like to discuss your choice of spirit or Spirit for Roman 8:15. Would you also consider my interpretation of Roman 1:1 in post #124082? From the heart, Ray |
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5 | Demon-possessed believer? | Luke 4:33 | WalkingTalkingBible | 124301 | ||
Hi, Ray, have a safe and blessed trip and I will be studying these verses for discussion when you return. Romans 1:1 says, "Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God." Let me know, when you can, what your position is concerning this verse. WalkingTalkingBible |
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