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1 | Two different accounts of the robbers | Luke 23:43 | iktoose | 156976 | ||
In this passage (Luke 23:40-43) we see that one of the robbers was rebuking the other for insulting Jesus. However, Matthew and Mark recorded that both of the two robbers were insulting Jesus. Matt 27:44 The robbers who had been crucified with Him were also insulting Him with the same words. Mark 15:32 Let this Christ, the King of Israel, now come down from the cross, so that we may see and believe!" Those who were crucified with Him were also insulting Him. Should we care which account is more accurate? iktoose |
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2 | Two different accounts of the robbers | Luke 23:43 | mark d seyler | 156983 | ||
Hi iktoose, Rather than thinking of one account as "more accurate" than another, how do all accounts combine to tell the story of what happened? Luke tells us that one of the two who were crucified with Jesus converted. The others tell us that both were insulting Jesus. Since the one would not have been insulting Jesus after he believed n Him, we can safely say that both were insulting Jesus, until one of them realized that Jesus was Who He said He was, at which time he stopped, and rebuked the other, turning to Jesus for salvation. I hope this helps! Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | Two different accounts of the robbers | Luke 23:43 | iktoose | 156986 | ||
Okay Mark, Your thinking and approach to this passage is understandable. But one can easily question Luke's writing as Mark and Matthew do not mention the same. Since it is two against one, one could consider Mark and Matthew's writings more accurate. Do you think Mark and Matthew were some distance away from the crosses and Luke was near the crosses? John does not report this at all although I think he was near the cross with Mary. iktoose |
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4 | Two different accounts of the robbers | Luke 23:43 | mark d seyler | 156988 | ||
Hi iktoose, I begin with the belief that all of these accounts are accurate. As I understand it, Luke was not present at Jesus' death, but rather wrote his gospel from interviews and the personal testimony of others. If he got part of it wrong, this would be the smoking gun that generations have been searching for - an error in the Bible! There is not a conflict between these accounts. Luke's simply gives more detail than Mark's and Matthew's, and John omits this detail. It is reasonable to think that John also witnesses the conversion of the man crucified alongside Jesus, but why the Holy Spirit choose not to include this in John's gospel, I couldn't say. In Matt 8 and Mark 5 are related the same story of Jesus meeting with the demon-possessed in the tombs. Matthew tells us there were two. Mark says Jesus met a man who was demon possessed. Mark is not incorrect in saying Jesus delivered a demon-possessed man, but he does neglect to tell us that there was another also. Matthew tells us that there were two. But this isn't a contradiction in scripture. It would be if Mark said there was only one. But he doesn't. If Matthew and Mark had said that both thieves insulted Jesus until they died, and Luke say one received Jesus as King, this would be a contradiction, but as it is, as we compile the accounts into a complete narative, one adds detail not seen in the others, to give the more complete story. I hope this help! Love in Christ, Mark |
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5 | Two different accounts of the robbers | Luke 23:43 | iktoose | 156998 | ||
Mark, I am a Bible believing person (every scripture is inspired by God) and I can go with your explanation. How would you convince an agnostic then? iktoose |
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6 | Two different accounts of the robbers | Luke 23:43 | mark d seyler | 157001 | ||
Hi iktoose, If it had to be about that particular passage, I'd give the same explaination. But this is a very small thing for someone to hang their eternal destiny on, if they reject God because because two guys describe an event in slightly different ways. For proof of the scriptures I always go with fulfilled prophecy such as the restoration of Israel, and the current world condition, but it depends on how the Holy Spirit leads me at the moment, because the real work of convincing is His. Generally I would move from these minor points to the more serious matters of sin and redemption. Christ crucified. So how would I convince an agnostic? Prayfully. I hope this helps :-) Love in Christ, Mark |
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