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1 | Greek of Luke 1.36: hosei/about | Luke 1:56 | BradK | 219558 | ||
Hello Rick, Welcome to the Forum. Great question and interestingly, I did a study and exposition of this passage last year:-) Regarding your specific query, did "Mary stay with Elizabeth after John was born?", here's what light I can shed: 1. The Commentary Critical says, "returned to her own house—at Nazareth, after which took place what is recorded in Mt 1:18–25."; 2. The Bible Knowledge Commentary offers, "1:56. Mary stayed with Elizabeth for about three months, apparently until John was born (cf. v. 36). Mary then returned home. The Greek has the words “her home,” indicating that she was still a virgin and was not yet married to Joseph." Additional insight is provided by Darrell Bock in his Luke Commentary: "In stating that Mary remained with Elizabeth, Luke uses a favorite preposition, syn (together or with), which he often prefers to meta (with) as a comparison of pericopes with Synoptic parallels (8:38, 51, 20:1, 22:14, 56). Just before John's birth, Mary returns to Nazareth (1:56). Much discussion surrounds Mary's departure.Arguing that Mary would not have left so close to John's birth, many suppose that Luke has moved the account of Mary's return forward to take Mary off center stage before John's birth. Such a shift would parallel how John the Baptst's arrest is presented in 3:19-20. Althought it' possible, the impression of the narrative does not fit this interpretation. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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2 | Greek of Luke 1.36: hosei/about | Luke 1:56 | RickCarpenter | 219562 | ||
Thanks Brad and Tim, I really like this forum and hope to use it and the NASB text in a work I am compiling solely based from historical/chronological details that Luke provides. With Luke, I still always go back to the admitted compilatory nature of this Gospel (1.1-4). I don't see verses 5 through 80 as necessarily one monolithic narrative and so I make the following guesses as a layman based only on the English in NASB (I do not know what the Greek may say to a scholar). I see 1.15-17 as a plausible insertion within narrative 1.5-25; 1.26 as a possible break; 1.46-55 as a plausible insertion at the end of narrative 1.27-55; 1.56 being a probable break/transition; 1.57-79 as a narrative; and 1.80 as a "bookend." That's why I hold out the probability that Mary stayed with Elizabeth until after John was born (I believe Tim Moran is allowing for this too), yet willfully concede that the only rock-solid baseline from which I can proceed would be Bock's statement as amended by me: "Although it's possible, the impression of the [literal] narrative does not fit this interpretation." Brad, where might I find your complete study/exposition of this? Brad and/or Tim, anything more about Alford's supposition that hosei implies a leeway after a certain mentioned point? Is there a similar Hebrew word/phrase which may underlie hosei (I support JSSR's Lukan Priority theory with its attendant supposition of Hebrew vorlages)? Thanks again! -- Rick |
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3 | Greek of Luke 1.36: hosei/about | Luke 1:56 | BradK | 219568 | ||
Hi Rick, Thanks for the comments and input. Unfortunately, I didn't make notes or even an outline of my study. I did it for 1 of our Adult Sunday School classes, so I just went verse by verse through the Lukan Christmas narrative (1:26- 2:20 Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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