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1 | MJH, Why limit it to adding abuse only? | Matt 19:9 | MJH | 144233 | ||
Searcher, The argument is one for you to prove otherwise. You have not taken much time or effort to make your point clear. I have laid out my position on divorce quite clearly. Since we are talking about divorce, not marriage, I stuck with the scriptures that deal with that. I will, for your sake, paste a commentary note on the subject: By John Gill's Exposition of the entire Bible: Deut 24:1 "because he hath found some uncleanness in her;" "something that he disliked, and was disagreeable to him, and which made their continuance together in the marriage state very uncomfortable; which led him on to be very ill-natured, severe, and CRUEL to her; so that HER LIFE was exposed to danger, or at least become very uneasy; in which case a divorce was permitted, BOTH for the badness of the man's heart, and in favor of the woman, that she might be FREED from such rigorous usage." (CAPS are my additions). If you would write a position that is different, I'd like to read it because I am not dogmatic on every point with this issue. I also have not taken as much time with this issue as I have with others, so any detailed arguments that contradict any of my arguments would be looked at with appreciation. MJH |
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2 | MJH, Why limit it to adding abuse only? | Matt 19:9 | Searcher56 | 144385 | ||
MJH - I contradict your arguments because you failed to read what the original says, not what an expert wrote. Gil not only is wrong in his translation of the test, he take it out of context. Searcher | ||||||
3 | MJH, Why limit it to adding abuse only? | Matt 19:9 | MJH | 144412 | ||
Searcher, I am still waiting to hear why you feel that a woman should stay married to a husband who is grossly abusive. This is the whole bases of our discussion of which I have provided much to think about, but which you have said nothing other than that you don't agree. Ex. 21 forbids gross abuse of SLAVES, but I am to assume that a married woman is lower than a slave and should not be defended in such a case? The scripture also forbids that a man allow another man's animal to be abused or put under a load that is too heavy. And, oh yeah, it was an ENEMIES animal that was under the heavy load, fell down, or fell into a hole. Yet, we are to treat our enemy’s animal with more respect than a man's wife? Is that what Jesus taught? To be literal in the very strictest way, as you suggest would be impossible at times. Let me show. The Sabbath laws forbid work on the Sabbath. The laws about property require that a man helps another man's donkey if it falls into a pit. What happens if the donkey falls into a pit on the Sabbath. Which law do you break? The rabbis in Jesus time said you break the Sabbath laws and help the donkey. Even they, those strict den of vipers, cared enough for an animal to break their beloved Sabbath. But I am to understand that Jesus was more of a viper by allowing women to be abused? Please, please provide an argument for your case. I am afraid that I may be getting sarcastic and I certainly do not wish to break the rules of the forum. MJH |
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4 | MJH, Why limit it to adding abuse only? | Matt 19:9 | Searcher56 | 144444 | ||
MJH - You are trying to link the treatment of a slave, and others with that of a spouse. The Bible is specific and if divorce was allowed for that reason, it would say so. You twist and turn Scripture to your own pleasure which for me falls short of 100 truth - therefore is trash. I have proven the truth about what Deut 24:1 says ... plus the only reasons for divorce ... and nowhere does Scripture allow abuse, much less does it allow divorce if the wife doesn't submit or if the husband doesn't love her. Why do you wait for what I have already done? |
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