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1 | Excommunication applicable for today? | Matt 18:17 | Makarios | 10113 | ||
So EdB, if I'm understanding you correctly- you are saying that excommunication is not applicable for today. | ||||||
2 | Excommunication applicable for today? | Matt 18:17 | EdB | 10196 | ||
Nolan if you define applicable as means of correction or as a deterrent then no I don't think excommunication is applicable. If you define applicable as being rooted in Biblical principal and still in effect as a way to preserve the purity of the church today then yes excommunication is applicable. I think if someone is guilty of such an act that justifies excommunication that person should be put out of the church, if for no other reason than preserve the purity of the church. However I do not see excommunication as any kind of deterrent to prevent hyenas behavior. I have seen Pastors caught in adultery, be removed from the church and move two blocks, start a new church and have better than half there old congregation follow them. If you ask the people why they will tell you he is a fantastic pastor. They could care he is up to his neck in sin. He entertains them and that is all they care about. I have also seen people cause so much trouble in a church that the pastor has had to biblically put them out. That action caused a church split because people didn’t want to be separated from their friends. Excommunication is Biblically applicable for today it just doesn’t carry any of the social stigma it once did. |
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3 | Excommunication applicable for today? | Matt 18:17 | Makarios | 10259 | ||
I agree EdB.. The 'consequences' for excommunication from the church today are no where near the degree to what those consequences would mean only 100 or so years ago! Today, if one church kicks us out, just walk to the next block or across the street and find another church there.. So what must clergy and laypeople do about this? Must we continue to keep excommunication an option? I believe so. To what extent? Good question!! (I'm talking to myself here) As far as pastors go, I feel that 'total excommunication' by the church and the denomination is in order here. However, the pastor should not be punished 'indefinitely' unless the sin warrants such decisive judgment. Pastors are the shepherds or leaders of the congregation and should be an example- they are not just 'members' here, they are the leaders and should be a model of moral and spiritual integrity in every fashion. Judgment (if caught in wrong-doing) should be greater for those who are in roles of leadership, such as the pastor. "Greater" means the succession from an office held until absolution of sins. To what extent must excommunication be carried out? I believe that it must be 'carried out' to the point where a person is obviously 'reprimanded' or reproofed for their wrong, but not to the point of totally excluding them from church. Also, I believe that there must be an 'incentive' to work towards, such as: 'If you begin to change from your ways and exhibit good behavior in sight of the church, then you will be eventually restored to full membership status' or something to that effect. These are just my ideas.. :) Nolan |
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4 | Excommunication applicable for today? | Matt 18:17 | EdB | 10278 | ||
I'll buy that! Ed |
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