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1 | Homosexual are picked on in the church? | Lev 20:13 | journey_me | 177341 | ||
No, that's not what I'm missing. I feel that's what everyone else is missing. Are you saying that change is instant once you've been saved. That the next day you will not sin or have the same thoughts you had before. What I am saying is that It's a spiritual change, but it takes a lot more for the flesh to catch up. You have to ask God to work on you and help you every step of the way. We don't know a person's heart, only God does, and that is why we should not pass judgment. I believe if someone is truly saved that they will come through the inflictions, but I think God has a timeline for each person, yet we often want to rush or tell people where they should be without knowing or understanding what they came through. |
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2 | Homosexual are picked on in the church? | Lev 20:13 | journey_me | 177366 | ||
I now take back thew words of kindness that I gave you. Obviously you have not read my words or the other post, and no I do not have to get out of the forum because I do not agree with you. Your opinion does not represent eveyone's opinion on this site and you shouldn't assume so. I have not attacked you personally, until now, but you are out of line. When discussing matters of Christianity, it would be nice if people used a Christian spirit to engage. Others have agreed or disagreed with me, and have not resulted to the name calling or insults that you have hurled. Certainly where is the biblical reference to those insults. I don't take people's opinion of the word at face value. If I can't challenge you and you can't provide me with biblical answers, then maybe you shouldn't respond. How do you grow in the word, when you can't challenge and learn. I'm not arguing for the homosexuals. Your question is illogical and extreme. Answer the question yourself, Is a person who says there saved on Sunday, robs and/or kills on Monday, is he or she going to hell on Tuesday? Tell me what would God do, you seem to have his authority. If you wanted biblical proof, just ask. 1 Cor 4: 1-5 So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the secret things of God. 2Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful. 3I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. 4My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God. And like I said in a previous post, I am through with this topic, but I am sure you haven't read that post. Thanks to all those who did help and who did challenge me. I agree with Mark and Brad K, and I was hard on them but they were hard back and helped me to see. Hank, your actions were uncalled for, and I am sad that I thanked you earlier. Never did I argue for homosexuals, my question was why homosexuality and not everything else. Yes, homosexuality is wrong, but Christians need to rise up and take a stand on all sexual immorality, including prostitution and fornication. My questions was never is homosexual wrong. If you are trying to convince me that we become perfect when we are saved, then you are barking up the wrong tree. If you are trying to tell me that Christianity is not an on going process then you are barking up the wrong tree. If you are trying to tell me that God does not judge each of our hearts, then you are barking up the wrong tree. And if you are trying to tell me we are all on the same timeline of where we need to be then... For those who do not understand the response, this is what Hank wrote: Note: journey_me: Where in Scripture does it say that God has "a time line for each person?" I surely do not see any scriptural support for your soteriological/sanctification argument that seems to be saying that the born-again believer needs time for the flesh to "catch up." ...... How then should we think about a situation involving a robber who said he was saved on Sunday and held up a bank on Monday? Is anything wrong with this picture? Did the robber simply need more time for his flesh to catch up with the regeneration of his spirit? Is this what Scripture teaches? If you choose to reply to this post, please back up your opinions with Scripture. Otherwise, we may as well rename this web site to "Non-Biblical Opinion Forum." ..... One final question. Why, in view of how forcefully Scripture condemns homosexuality, are you arguing from the other side of the fence? If you are trying to convince the rest of us that there is any such reality as an unpenitent PRACTICING homosexual Christian, you're barking up the wrong tree and may as well change the subject or move on. We on Study Bible Forum do not dispense solace to anyone who champions opinions that are not firmly grounded in God's word. --Hank Sorry, for the rant, but I think Hank's post proves my point. How can we expect people who are seeking the truth to come to us, when we react with such judgment. |
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3 | Homosexual are picked on in the church? | Lev 20:13 | Hank | 177373 | ||
journey_me - I am sorry that you viewed my tough questions to you with antipathy and my comments as ad hominem slurs toward you. My objective in the post that you obviously found offensive was to support and defend the Forum's requirement of all posters who make sweeping statements on religious matters that they back up their theories/opinions/hunches with appropriate references to Scripture: book, chapter, and verse. ..... Young man, you are talking mighty sassy to me. I'm well over twice your age and was a follower of Christ 25 years or so before you were born. I didn't fall off a turnip truck last week and suddenly show up on Study Bible Forum. I've been consistently active on this Forum for more than five years and have learned a thing or two I believe. So why don't you just cool off and calm down and answer the questions I asked you in the post that you now find so out of line. It is not out of line. It is exceedingly proper to ask a fellow user to back up what he says with Scripture. Your question started this thread, and by the way you worded your question, it certainly gave me (and others) the distinct impression that you were more critical of the church's stand against the "gay" lifestyle than the lifestyle itself. So what has ensued is a long, often combative, thread on a subject on which the Bible leaves absolutly no wiggle room: The Bible condemns the practice. Period. A topic like this on which the Bible is resolute and crystal clear is not even debatable, and yet here we are, debating and quibbling, and filling Forum pages endlessly on the subject. (This is by no means the first time this subject has come before the Forum or the first time it has been debated). But no matter how many times human beings debate an issue on which God has clearly and plainly spoken, it is futile to presume that God is going to change His mind. ..... You have said a number of things in your bitter post to me that simply aren't true. But one in particular disturbs me greatly. You said to me, "Tell me what God would do, you seem to have His authority." How can you say such a thing, for it is a terrible thing to say to anyone, much less to a Christian such as myself whom you have never seen and about whom you know next to nothing. I forgive you your trespass and urge to you pray that God will forgive you. --Hank | ||||||
4 | Homosexual are picked on in the church? | Lev 20:13 | journey_me | 177382 | ||
I feel the same. How dare you? I certainly respect those that respect me. I didn't chatise you for asking tough questions. I chatise you for your sarcasm and name calling. As you can see it doesn't feel good. If you would have checked the other post, you would have realized that I understood your point, and that I gave you praises. You didn't understand my post and you attacked. You keep making assumptions, which proves to me you are not reading my post. I am not a man, I am happily married mother of one and one on the way. The forum is not resolute, some people actually understood where I was coming from. Sorry if the God's authority comment offended you, but your age does not entitle you to presume so much. | ||||||