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1 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | budderfligh | 198294 | ||
Hi Jeff, I looked at several other translations of Scripture on this verse and would like to include at least one of them in this thread: Ex 7:3 But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my miraculous signs and wonders in Egypt, Ex 7:4 he will not listen to you. Then I will lay my hand on Egypt and with mighty acts of judgment I will bring out my divisions, my people the Israelites. Ex 7:5 And the Egyptians will know that I am the LORD when I stretch out my hand against Egypt and bring the Israelites out of it." This is from the New International Version. I totally agree with you that God was making a distinction between His people and Egypt and also that he was displaying his sovereignity as you state, but I also think his hand was "against" Egypt. Forgive me Jeff, I am not a Bible Scholar as many on this site are, but I am failing to see anything other than when God laid his hand on Egypt it brought about undesireable results for them and this was a direct result of God hardening Pharoah's heart. You do not see "laying his hand" on Egypt as being a punishment? Please explain if this is the case and again, forgive my inability to understand what you're saying. Thank you and God bless, budderfligh |
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2 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | DocTrinsograce | 198301 | ||
Hi, budderfligh... The branch of theology that struggles with the question of the origin of evil in the light of the Creator's holiness, is called theodicy. It has been discussed, debated, and deliberated by just about every Christian generation in the last two millenia. For example, it is interesting that God specifically chose Babylon and Assyria to punish Israel (Jeremiah 20:5; 21:10; 2 Kings 17:22-24; 20:17). Yet He then punishes Babylon and Assyria for their actions toward Israel (Jeremiah 50:18). Our Sovereign Lord can and does deal with His creation as He pleases (see post #138132). Nevertheless, theodicy is an interesting question. You bring up a very good point! People work hard to try to defend Pharaoh's freedom of choice, because of the value they place in their soteriological presuppositions. (Note that I'm not necessarily singling anyone out of those who have participated in this thread to date. I'm just speaking generally.) So what of all the Egyptian children killed by God (Exodus 12:27)? Did each of them choose evil, meriting destruction? Were they all old enough to have actually made the kind of choice made by Pharaoh? Scripture tells us that God Himself made the distinguishing difference between Israel and Egypt (Exodus 11:7). Despite that and Paul's more detailed explanation in Romans 9:16-24, it is hard for people to take this Scriptural doctrine at face value. Thank you for your thoughts on this topic. In Him, Doc |
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3 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | budderfligh | 198312 | ||
Hi Doc, Thanks for your thoughts on this subject. I have never heard of the term theodicy but it does sound like a subject I've heard discussed before. Isn't there somewhere in Scripture that states that God made evil? I looked for the passage but couldn't locate it. I agree that God himself made the distinguishing difference between Israel and Egypt. I also agree that the thought of this doctrine is hard to take. Many instances come to my mind that I thought were unfair of God when I first read of them in scripture such as that poor man who was stoned to death because he was gathering sticks on a Sabbath (Nu. 15:32-36), or the way God gave land to the Israelites that belonged to other people; actually giving them cities they didn't build and vineyards they didn't plant (Deut. 6:10-11). I remember when I first read these things that I thought them to be unfair. As I matured in Christ and in the study of Scripture I began to understand that you just can't get around Rom. 9:18. God is God. Always has been. Always will be. He is truly the Potter and we are truly the clay. I will end this post with the verse I ended my last post to Jeff with, Isa 55:8 For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. God bless and keep you. I look forward with much eagerness to learn more from those who post here and thank you for tolerating my questions and thoughts, budderfligh |
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4 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | Val | 198313 | ||
Numbers 15:32-36 - "The poor man" was according to the verses surrounding these verses, was defiant, blaspheming the Lord, and despising the word of the Lord and the consequences is laid out - shall be cut off. Num 15:30 'But the person who does anything defiantly, whether he is native or an alien, that one is blaspheming the LORD; and that person shall be cut off from among his people. Num 15:31 'Because he has despised the word of the LORD and has broken His commandment, that person shall be completely cut off; his guilt will be on him.'" Num 15:32 Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering wood on the sabbath day. |
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5 | God sought Moses to kill him | Ex 4:24 | budderfligh | 198333 | ||
Sorry, but I don't recant my description of this person as being "the poor man". The only difference between he and I is grace. There isn't a time that I don't read Leviticus and Numbers that I'm not reminded of how wonderful it is to be living under this dispensation of grace! I am not disagreeing that the man deserved what befell him, merely reflecting my sympathy to what seems to be a rather harsh punishment for a rather minor occurance (in my eyes). I fully understand that he transgressed God's law, but I can't help how I feel about it. May God Bless, budderfligh |
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