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1 | Daniel 9, and Matt 18 | Dan 9:24 | JohnK | 46654 | ||
Daniel 9, and Matt 18 Upon studying this, I came to this conclusion. What is your opinion? Matthew 18:21-22 21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. Catch that? Seventy times seven? That equalls 490. Of course, Jesus isn't saying that you can only forgive someone 490 times. Do you think He was referring to something else? He sure was! Look at the book of Daniel, chapter 9. Daneil 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Seventy weeks is 490 days! What was the 70 weeks about? What was Daniel saying? If you read carefully, you will see that the seventy weeks involves the Messiah. We know this because he said that he will make a covenant with many for a a week, and that in the middle of the week, He will cause the sacrifices to cease. What happened during the middle of the final week prior to the resurrection? Jesus was crucified! Thereby ending animal sacrifices! So pay close attention here: The seventy weeks was broken down to 69 weeks, and the last week was described in detail. The last week was the week of the crucifixion. Upon Christ's resurrection, the last week was complete, thereby ending the seventy weeks spoken of by Daniel. So, when Jesus said you shall forgive UNTIL seventy times seven, He was saying that the time for forgivenes for Israel as a nation was coming to an end. They were the fig tree that Jesus had withered away when he saw it had no fruit. Jesus made it clear when he came up to the figtree to eat of its fruit, and found none, He caused it to whither and die. The above is just my interpretation. What's yours? This is part of a Bible study that I am doing. I am not here to argue. I am looking for the Truth, and nothing but. Please give me your input, as well as scriptural support for your thoughts. However, don't JUST take quotes from the Old Testament. Try and tie in BOTH the Old, AND the New Testaments. Thanks! And thank you ahead of time for participating in my Bible study! May the Lord enrich you! John |
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2 | Daniel 9, and Matt 18 | Dan 9:24 | Morant61 | 46674 | ||
Greetings John! I would respectfully disagree with your interpretation for three main reasons. 1) It is dangerous to simply connect passages because of similarities in numbers. There is no clear indication that Mt. 18 and Dan. 9 are connected in anyway at all. In fact, no one is sure if Matt. 18 should read 490 or 49. 2) You applied the "middle of the week" of Daniel to the final week before the resurrection. Yet, animal sacrifices did not cease until 70 a.d., more than 40 years later. 3) Finally, and most importantly, you said: "So, when Jesus said you shall forgive UNTIL seventy times seven, He was saying that the time for forgivenes for Israel as a nation was coming to an end. They were the fig tree that Jesus had withered away when he saw it had no fruit." But, this goes against everything that Dan. 9:24 says would happen at the end of the 490 years. Dan. 9:24 is a prophecy that God will accomplish forgiveness of sins, not abandon it. Just my thoughts my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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3 | Daniel 9, and Matt 18 | Dan 9:24 | JohnK | 46678 | ||
Thanks for the input. Just to address point #2 you made: 2) You applied the "middle of the week" of Daniel to the final week before the resurrection. Yet, animal sacrifices did not cease until 70 a.d., more than 40 years later. What I was saying is that, since the ultimate sacrifice had been offered, animal sacrifice was no longer a value to God. Whether the Jews contined to sacrifice animals for 40 or 500 more years is not relevant. In God's eyes, animal sacrifice ceased to be of meaning to Him after Christ was crucified. God bless you Tim, and thank you for your input. You have presented your point in a gracious and respectful manner, for that I very much appreciate it. Sometimes people in the forum get a little uptight when differing opinions come along, even when doing Bible studies sometimes! Did you ever get one of these? "Well I'm right, you are wrong, you are going to hell!"? Ahh boy! It's always wonderful to not have those things come up, so log as we remember, we must never be satisfied with what we know, but must continually seek to grow in Christ. Thanks again! John |
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4 | Daniel 9, and Matt 18 | Dan 9:24 | Morant61 | 46711 | ||
Greetings John! Thanks for the clarification! I thought that might have been what you meant, but I wasn't sure! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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