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1 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187618 | ||
Doc, Well, by the very definition that you quoted from Dr. Martin. I still do not see how Watchman Nee,whom I'm sure I disagee with, has meet the qualifications. Unless there is more I don't know about what Nee said, I see absolutely no effect on anyones salvation or the security thereof. Nor do I see how this would effect a believer's everyday walk with God? If anything, I think the right label would be "heretic." I believe Dr. Martin has helped the Christinan community enormously but he also was pretty darn arrogant and self righteous in many of his summations. It is one thing to draw attention to serious errors that plague Christianity but he tended to "attack some" (certainly not all). I have read and agreed with him time after time but to label Watchman Nee as a cultist (based on what I know so far) is going way over the line. Perhaps "a very serious error indeed," (the jury is still out as I do not know the full implication of what Nee is saying) but to label him cultist? Please help as I do not see it. Help........ Psalm 25 |
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2 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | DocTrinsograce | 187632 | ||
"Arrogant and self righteous?" Interesting choice of words, considering. I repeat for at least the third time: Witness Lee (not Watchman Nee) |
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3 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187643 | ||
Goodmorning Doc, Looks like I struck a nerve? I sense that my comments regarding Dr. Walter Martin, though he has departed to his eternal reward in 1989, seems offensive and "unfair or untrue." As I said he has been very helpful to the Christian community for many years. I honestly think he long ago over-stepped his bonds. Dr. Martin started off warning Christians about "true cults and false religions." Then, over time, he began taking it upon himself to critisize many other ministries and that has grown significantly. I have for years listened to many of his programs and read his articles. I have been around Christendom for 59 years. Dr. Marin and his current organization have taken it upon themselves to be critical of many who are "well inside the bounds of being, mostlikely, fundamental Christians." While you and I may have difficulty agree with many of their positions, what gives anyone the right to "publically" critisize the minor issues we disagree with? I guarentee you, CRI could have numerous faults with Billy Graham as he has always been in the "free-will camp." Who amoung us would remotely draw attention to what we disagree with in light of the tremendous ministry Dr. Graham has had. Have you taken a long hard look at Dr. Martin's web site? Now they are critisizing Rick Warren and Saddle Back Church. Who gave them this right? God certainly did not. These, at best, are minor issues; who appointed them as God's agents over minor issues? And we wonder why Christianity is so divided today and the unbelieving world sees us as "constantly taking pot shots at each other." Yes, my friend, arrogant and self-righteous is exactly where CRI has come to. So is anyone else who takes it upon themselves to "publically" critisize ministries that "over all" have been a positive influence on Christianity and the lost. Please, Doc, explain to me how Witness Lee or Watchman Nee, whom CRI has critisized both, qualify as cultist or cult leaders? And do you personally know "all the facts" as to be well informed enough to challenge what I have said? Before you reply you may want to visit CRI's web site as they probibly are attacking someone you may know who is "main stream" but not necessarily "perfect" according to the criteria of CRI. "Judge not, lest you too be judge." (I address this verse to CRI) Thank you, Psalm 25 |
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4 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187645 | ||
And may I further add: Controversies After the death of Dr. Walter Martin (June 26, 1989), Hank Hanegraaff became president of the Christian Research Institute. Many feel Mr. Hanegraaff was (and is) not the right man for the job. One claim is that he runs the organization more like a business venture than a Christian ministry. Another is that Hanegraaff Others cite ethical issues. Under Hanegraaff's leadership, the staff of the Christian Research Institute was decimated. Over 100 workers left or were fired - among them many established, respected researchers, apologists and cult experts, including Paul Carden, Rich Poll, Craig Hawkins, and Ron Rhodes. Not every one who left did so because of disagreement or other conflict. However, in 1994, some 35 ex-CRI employees formed the Group for CRI Accountability. Citing Hanegraaff's lack of theological training, poor interpersonal relationship skills, questions regarding his business dealings, and a number of ethical issues, they demanded his resignation. Addressing The Problem In 1997, Christianity Today published an article titled, "When Christians Fight Christians" (Part 2) A case study mentioned in the item is widely recognized as referring to the situation that, over the years, developed at CRI. Tim Stafford's article offers sound suggestions on how to deal with these type of situations. While Christian organizations answer to a higher calling than their secular counterparts, they have this in common with the latter: imperfect people, who'll make mistakes that need to be corrected. Yet to-date these controversies remain unresolved. The publishers of Apologetics Index believe the controversies are best handled by those directly involved and affected - with the help of impartial Christians who are recognized to be in a position to request and receive accountability from all parties concerned. Professional Christian meditation is offered by, for example, such organizations as EMNR and the Christian Legal Society That said, over the years a number of interested parties have tried different approaches to try and hold the Christian Research Institute - and in particular its current president, Hank Hanegraaff - accountable. These approaches have included the formation of the Group for CRI Accountability, some legal wranglings, and private peacemaking attempts by individuals. They have ranged from the mature, Biblical approach taken by Walter Martin's family, to the publication of error-filled hit-pieces by anonymous critics. Sadly, thus far all attempts to arrive at a private solution appear to have failed. This is one reason why many of the issues have become public knowledge Hope this adds some light. Psalm 25 |
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5 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | mark d seyler | 187648 | ||
Hi Psalm 25, Just a reminder, be sure to include a source reference when quoting previously published material. I am certain this was merely an oversight. :-) For any that are interested, you can read the full article at: http://www.apologeticsindex.org/c174.html Love in Christ, Mark Love in Christ, Mark |
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6 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187649 | ||
I made a huge mistake........ Please forgive me: "To error is human, to forgive is devine." I just realized that my problem is not with Dr. Walter Martin but is with Hank Hanegraaff. My sincerest apologies to one and all especially the Martin family. Since Dr. Martin died in 1989 he was not and is not responsible for the many assaults on other Christian ministries. Hank Hanegraaff is the one I should have addressed as the problem. I am sincerely sorry for all that was addressed to Dr. Walter Martin. Psalm 25 |
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7 | What qualifies a cultist? | Is 43:7 | mark d seyler | 187651 | ||
Personally, I sure miss Walter Martin! And that's all I'm gonna say! Love in Christ, Mark |
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