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1 | Whom God choose in Him before Creation | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187407 | ||
Doc, What is your understanding of "whom God choose before the foundations of the world?" If God "knew us and choose us," then would this not predispose that God set certain "souls" apart? And if He did so would it not answer a lot of questions about who and why? |
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2 | Whom God choose in Him before Creation | Is 43:7 | DocTrinsograce | 187410 | ||
Dear P25, I should have also added that nothing "predisposes" God in His choosing. Such a thing would imply merit. If merit were involved, there would be no such thing as grace. In historic Baptist teaching, the old divines put it this way: "Those of mankind that are predestinated to life, God, before the foundation of the world was laid, according to His eternal and immutable purpose, and the secret counsel and good pleasure of His will, hath chosen in Christ unto everlasting glory, out of His mere free grace and love, without any other thing in the creature as a condition or cause moving Him thereunto. (Ephesians 1:4, 9, 11; Romans 8:30; 2 Timothy 1:9; 1 Thessalonians 5:9; Romans 9:13, 16; Ephesians 2:5, 12)" --1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith, chapter 3, paragraph 5 In Him, Doc |
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3 | Who and why..... must be a reason? | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187411 | ||
Thanks Doc, Have you ever thought, though, (put on your best thinkin' cap) if God choose before the foundations of the world, did He do this randomly, or possibly He may have done His chosing based on something else. We know it certainly was not "forknowledge" as some think, so what was it? I have been pondering this for years. I am firmly calvinistic (have some questions though on limited atonement).Seems to me that if things were decided upon "before (key word) the foundations of the world, then there is more to this than scriptures are willing to tell us. Your thoughts? Psalm 25 |
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4 | Who and why..... must be a reason? | Is 43:7 | DocTrinsograce | 187420 | ||
Dear P25, God is neither arbitrary or capricious. That is completely contrary to His self-revealed character. "Remember this and stand firm, recall it to mind, you transgressors, remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done, saying, 'My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose.'" (Isaiah 46:8-10 ESV) Assuming we'd even have sufficient intelligence to understand the inner counsel of God, since the Scriptures do not speak to the question, neither may we. There is nothing edifying in doing so. "The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law." (Deuteronomy 29:29 ESV) For a discussion of the logical order of the decrees of God, see post #150811. In Him, Doc |
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