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1 | Are we something before we were somethin | Is 43:7 | DLA | 187404 | ||
Hi all I am new to this site and hope someone has an answer for me. In bible study we have been talking about if we (as people) were a being (spirit) before we were placed in our mothers womb. we have found passages that say I knew you before you were born. that seems to suggest that God knew us but were we something before we were something? or just a plan? |
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2 | Are we something before we were somethin | Is 43:7 | jlhetrick | 187408 | ||
Hello DLA, Welcome to the Forum! In addition to what Doc and Psalm 25 have offered, let me add one additional point that I feel might underlie your question at least in part. The Scriptures clearly teach that nothing and no one is eternal except God Himself. John 1:1-3 (ESV) 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In other words, we humans have not always existed as a soul or any other form prior to our being created; neither do I find in Scripture that God created us in spirit and then had us hang around a while, somewhere- anywhere, before joining us to a body. Hope this helps, Jeff |
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3 | What was God thinking "before?" | Is 43:7 | Psalm 25 | 187415 | ||
Jeff, I don't think I implied that anyone whom God chose was eternal. We know that God created all things. But have you not ever wondered if God chose us in Him before the foundations (key word) of the world, then who and why? Surely many have wondered and speculated on "the why." There has to be a reason, a solidly Biblical one, or as I stated earlier, God has not offered an explanation. Is it wrong to wonder, as a serious Christian, "what is it that caused God to chose and how/why did He do so. The calvinist nor the armenians position(s) do not address this but knowing the God of love as I hope I do after studying it seriously for years, makes me wonder? Your thoughts Jeff? Psalm 25 |
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4 | What was God thinking "before?" | Is 43:7 | jlhetrick | 187419 | ||
Hello Psalm 25, My response to DLA was not intended to suggest anything about your post or your position, nor Doc’s for that matter. I was simply adding a direct response regarding what I believed DLA’s question to be asking. That’s why I started my statement with “in addition to what Doc and Psalm 25 have offered…”. But sense you ask, I have to say I have done much more than “wonder” about the topic. In fact, I have spent a fair share of my personal bible study time trying to understand it all. The conclusion I have come to is that the depth of detail is hidden, that is, has not been revealed. I believe God when He says Isa 55:9 (ESV) “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” And I’m not simply and conveniently quoting a verse as an excuse. You see P25, I really have reached a point where I am convinced of one thing; that I will not reach some new conclusion on matters that men of history and those of today that were blessed with the calling to study and teach/preach God’s word full time have not reached. Yes, there may be a new application of truth to address my individual and even potentially unique circumstance. Not though a new truth or a new revelation of truth that God kept hidden until the time He chose to reveal it to me a couple thousand years after He had delivered His word to man in full. I study that God will reveal new the truth of His word to me; not that he will reveal new truth of His word to me. I must approach it in this manner lest I be found to be one of which Paul sternly warned about: 2 Corinthians 11:1-4 (NASB95) 11:1 I wish that you would bear with me in a little foolishness; but indeed you are bearing with me. 2 For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy; for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin. 3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. 4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully. Please don’t misunderstand me friend. I don’t pretend to have mastered the approach, but there are certain points of doctrine that no longer cause me undue stress; Election, Predestination, Foreknowledge offered as examples. Finally, I believe that speculating and even face-to-face discussions on these issues are not only important, but edifying. At the same time, I have concluded that they offer no benefit to the Forum considering it’s limitations. God bless, Jeff |
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