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1 | Satan fallen angel? | Is 14:12 | Praise Be To God | 138922 | ||
Isaiah 14:12 and Ezekiel 28:11-19. Janae |
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2 | Satan fallen angel? | Is 14:12 | He-man | 139001 | ||
Sorry, but this refers to: Don't be fooled by Isaiah 14:12 or Ezekiel 28:11. It has nothing to do with a satan The word itself, the Hebrew saÆtaÆn, is simply an "adversary," (not a thing with a pitchfork and horns) Isaiah 12:4 tells exactly who it is addressed to : 4That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! And not some superhuman being! Ezekiel 28:11 says the King of Tyrus: Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus,...... Lucifer is translated a bright and morning star Lu´cifer (light-bearer), found in Isa. 14:12, coupled with the epithet "son of the morning," clearly signifies a "bright star," and probably what we call the morning star. It is with the scriptural revelation on the subject that we are here concerned; and it is clear, from this simple enumeration of passages, that it is to be sought in the New rather than in the Old Testament. William Smith; revised and edited by F.N. and M.A. Peloubet, Smith’s Bible dictionary [computer file], electronic ed., Logos Library System, (Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997. |
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3 | Satan fallen angel? | Is 14:12 | BradK | 139004 | ||
He-man, Just a comment on your point:There are at least the 2 opposing views on these sections of scripture. I hold that they do refer to satan. If they're not a reference to him, we're at a loss to understand his fall and the origin of evil in scripture! The Commentary Critical makes this note on Is. 14:12-15, "The language is so framed as to apply to the Babylonian king primarily, and at the same time to shadow forth through him, the great final enemy, the man of sin, Antichrist, of Daniel, St. Paul, and St. John; he alone shall fulfil exhaustively all the lineaments here given." Those are my thoughts on this. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Satan fallen angel? | Is 14:12 | He-man | 139031 | ||
The very foundation of a supposedly popular satanic belief and not even one mention of this major event in NT bible? It may be gathered from the prophetical Scriptures and from Josephus that the conquest of Jerusalem was rapidly followed BY THE FALL of Tyre and the complete submission of Phœnicia, in Ezek. 26–28 The wealth, greatness, and general prosperity of Nebuchadnezzar are strikingly placed before us in the book of Daniel. Other historians, Eusebius and Berosus, also confirm the account. There are no direct quotations from Ezekiel in the New Testament. Thank you for your comments BradK.. I prefer to be responsible for my own sins and not say "the devil made me do it". It is my oqwn freewill choice and not coerced by anything external. |
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5 | Satan fall? Luke 10:18? | Is 14:12 | MJH | 139032 | ||
What about Luke 10:18? And He said to them, "I was watching Satan fall from heaven like lightning. . ." Do you understand this reference Jesus makes? It is in the NT. |
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6 | Satan fall? Luke 10:18? | Is 14:12 | He-man | 139044 | ||
Looks like Luke 10:14,15 is the answer to your question: 14 But it shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment, than for you. 15 And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted to heaven, shalt be thrust down to hell. The power of casting out devils was bestowed by Christ while on earth upon the apostles, Matt. 10:8, and the seventy disciples, Luke 10:17-19, It is referenced by: Mark 5:8 Acts 19:13 and Matt 12:27,28 8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. Demoniacs. This word is frequently used in the New Testament, and applied to persons suffering under the possession of a demon or evil spirit, such possession generally showing itself visibly in bodily disease or mental derangement.We are led, therefore, to the ordinary and literal interpretation of these passages, that there are evil spirits, who, in the days of the Lord himself and his apostles especially, were permitted by God to exercise a direct influence over the souls and bodies of certain men. The good Samaritan, Luke 10, etc. 3. Toward the close of our Lord’s ministry the parables are again theocratic, but the phase of the divine kingdom on which they chiefly dwell is that of its final consummation. In interpreting parables note—(1) The analogies must be real, not arbitrary; (2) The parables are to be considered as parts of a whole, and the interpretation of one is not to override or encroach upon the lessons taught by others; (3) The direct teaching of Christ presents the standard to which all our interpretations are to be referred, and by which they are to be measured. William Smith; revised and edited by F.N. and M.A. Peloubet, Smith’s Bible dictionary , electronic ed., Logos Library System, (Nashville: Thomas Nelson) 1997. The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769. |
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7 | Still looking for an answer. | Is 14:12 | MJH | 139075 | ||
Your answer seems some what confusing. The question in the thread is about whether Satan was cast out of heaven with other angels. I can look up commentaries myself. What do you personally think? Is this passage a direct answer to “Can you find a New Testament passage that claims Satan was cast out of heaven?” |
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8 | Still looking for an answer. | Is 14:12 | Nikkicole | 139117 | ||
Revelation 12:9 "So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him." Revelation 12:12 "On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” To learn more copy and paste the hyperlink below, and go to website to get many more questions answered: http://www.watchtower.org/library/t22/who_rules.htm |
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