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1 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | John Gmuer | 208356 | ||
If the Father is the one sitting on the throne and the Holy Spirt is the seven lamps before the throne, then where is Jesus Christ? I have never asked this question to anyone who has answered it as I have. I am curious to know what others think. | ||||||
2 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | Tim3:16 | 208357 | ||
Hi John, This is what I have been led to think, since you asked. Well, first I must disagree with your interpretation of the seven lamps, which are explained in the context as the seven spirits. These, I believe, are actually listed in Isaiah 11:2 Tim |
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3 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | John Gmuer | 208358 | ||
Tim, Your explanation of the seven lamps or the seven spirits of God is accurate. Isaiah lists the seven characteristics of the Holy Spirit. If you go to Rev 1 it says Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spirits[a] before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. By the way the seven characteristics are wisdom, power, counsel, understanding,knowledge, fear of the Lord (complete awe for His Holiness, which is the beginning of Wisdom) and Joy in the fear of the Lord ( Joyous Humility). Still where is Jesus Christ in Chapter 4. |
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4 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208370 | ||
Dear John, Welcome to the forum. The "voice, as of a trumpet” in Rev 1:10… Could this not be the same as “the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me” from Rev 4:1? I think there is some disagreement on that, but it seems to fit doesn’t it? I’m not sure at this point, simply putting it on the table. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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5 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | John Gmuer | 208372 | ||
The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. Heb 1:3 Also I have done extensive research and believe that the emerald is the stone of the tribe of Judah in the breasplate of the High Priest. Now, how do you think Jesus is represented in Chapter 4. I believe he is symbolically represented by the "rainbow resembling an emerald". | ||||||
6 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208376 | ||
Hi John, I see what you are getting at now, but, symbolically, the blood red sardine stone would make more sense as to a representation of our Lord. The diamond would be the perfect Father, the sardine stone the Son, for His blood was shed for us, and the circle of he rainbow with green (nature / creation) the Holy Spirit, administering the holiness and redemption of God to all of creation. That’s how I believe Ray Stedman explained it. I can’t dismiss it although you bring up a good point as well. Again, just throwing it on the table for consideration. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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7 | Where is Jesus Christ in Rev 4 | Is 11:2 | John Gmuer | 208383 | ||
The Father is the one sitting on the throne. And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and carnelian.This corresponds exactly with ez 1 27-28 I saw that from what appeared to be his waist up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. 28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him. The Holy Spirit is clearly defined as the seven lamps before the throne (these are the seven spirits of God). Read heb 1:3. The Jewish encyclopedia lists the emerald as the stone of the tribe of Judah in the breastplate of the High Priest. Check Exodus. The KJV has the emerald as the stone of the tribe of Judah. In chapter 5 of the Book of Revelation the elder points to the Lion of the tribe of Judah. I believe he was pointing to the rainbow. When John looked he saw a Lamb looking as if it had been slain. | ||||||