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1 | The dead know nothing ??? | Eccl 9:5 | Emmy | 118659 | ||
Hi: There seem to be no unanswered question on the forum at present. This is a question I asked earlier, but I never found an answer to it. Is there anyone out there willing to try. This passage says that the dead know nothing. It cannot be taken out of context of the rest of the scriptures. Some have said that other passages contradict this statement "The dead know nothing". Any statement contradicting the above, would mean "the dead know something". Can anyone showe me how the statement "the dead know nothing can be interpreted that the dead know something? Sincerely Henry and Emmy |
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2 | The dead know nothing ??? | Eccl 9:5 | Emmaus | 118696 | ||
Emmy and Henry, In light of Ecc 9:5, "This passage says that the dead know nothing.It cannot be taken out of context of the rest of the scriptures." how do you understand the passages below? Matt 22:32 'I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living." Matt 17:3 And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. Luke 9:30 And behold, two men were talking with Him; and they were Moses and Elijah, Luke 9:31 who, appearing in glory, were speaking of His departure which He was about to accomplish at Jerusalem. Emmaus |
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3 | The dead know nothing ??? | Eccl 9:5 | Emmy | 118804 | ||
Hi Emmaus: This is a good way to pose a question. If you do not agree with a statement, consider other passages that seem to be related. To say that the verse about the dead knowing nothing must not be read in isolation from the passages you quote here is to imply that the verses you quote must not be read in isolation from the passage about the dead knowing nothing. Both statements have to be true. Until one sees an interpretations that allow both statement to stand, one should keep looking, and not say the one they do not like is wrong. Statement: the dead know nothing. Statement: Samuel came out of the ground from the dead to speak to King Saul. Both went back to the place of the dead, in the earth. Conclusion: The dead know nothing, BUT there is the possibility for calling someome from the dead to be in a body for a short time and then return to the place of the dead in the state of knowing nothing. Jesus did this for Lazarus and numerous others. Therefore while in the place of the dead, the dead are not aware of anything. But there are examples of people being recalled from the dead, at which time they are aware, as Samuel was, and also Lazarus. Elijah-John the Baptist-One Witness in Revelation. These are the same people. Elijah did not die but was translated the first time he was here. He came the second time as John the Baptist. He will come again as one of the witnesses in the end times before all things are restored. Elijah is surely a very special case. There seems to be a possiblilty of one other person who goes thesame route. Elijah translated, comes back as John the Baptist, is killed, is seen in the transfiguration, is to come again in the end times, is killed, comes back to life and is transslated again. Surely he is a hard man to keep down. Makes one wonder if he ever really among the dead for long. The first resurrection has not yet occured. This is to happen after Christ returns in the end times. Resurrection means bring back to life if I have that right. Just after the first resurrection it says the rest of the dead were not brought back to life till the 1000 years are over. Rev 20:5 This means those in the first resurrection were dead just moments before it. Matt 22:32 God is God of the living not the God of the dead. This does not mean we do not die, but we are not dead to God. We are only asleep for a moment between dying and the first resurrection. John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; This clearly says believers do die, but will be resurrected. God is that God of those who are spiritually alive. He is not the God of those spiritually dead. They have other gods, in that they worship gods of stone, metal, money or anything else that has no life in it. There is a passage refering to a person who is physically alive but already dead. Can't find it at present. Thus dead has more than one meaning in scripture. Therefore context dictates which to apply. Phsically dead Spiritually dead. God is God of the spiritually alive God is not the God of the spiritually dead. Sincerely Henry and Emmy |
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4 | The dead know nothing ??? | Eccl 9:5 | flinkywood | 118809 | ||
Emmy and Henry, Elijah did not come "back as" John the Baptist. Jesus was speaking figuratively about John (Matthew 17:1-8), whom he regarded as preaching in the "spirit" of Elijah. Please see Luke 1:17. There is no reincarnation. You can look it up. Colin |
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5 | The dead know nothing ??? | Eccl 9:5 | Emmy | 118821 | ||
Hi Colin: Matt 17:12 but I say to you, that Elijah already came, and they did not recognize him, but did to him whatever they wished. So also the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands." This clearly says as Elijah was killed, so He(Jesus) was to be put to death. Now we know Elijah was not killed when He was here firs time, He was killed as John and Baptist. Perhaps you cannot see it that way, buy we cannot see it as anything other than what I have suggested. A difference of opinion ought not as is often the case cause hard feelings among believers, unless the teachings are anti-Christ. I trust you agree. Sincerely Henry and Emmy |
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6 | The dead know nothing ??? | Eccl 9:5 | flinkywood | 118829 | ||
Henry and Emmy, No, we appear not to disagree on the essentials; however, you appear to believe in reincarnation. Do you see Luke 1:17 and Matthew 11:14 as supporting this? Colin |
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