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1 | Civil disobedience follow-up | Prov 3:13 | stjones | 105135 | ||
Hi, searcher; "The Jews insisted, 'We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God.'" (John 19:7) But I am not equating Jesus' actions leading to his arrest with civil disobedience. Obviously no protester has ever acted with the authority that Jesus did, no protester's motive has ever been as pure as Jesus' was, and no protester has ever acted with the wisdom and understanding that Jesus did. Unlike Jesus, no protester has ever been entitled to simply refuse to be bound by the laws of men when he chose not to be. That said, Jesus did break a number of the laws of men and responded to his arrest in much the way that I described. But of course the question was, when a person other than Jesus breaks a law and cooperates fully with the civil authorites in his arrest, conviction, and punishment, has he submitted to the civil authorities? Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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2 | Civil disobedience follow-up | Prov 3:13 | Searcher56 | 105136 | ||
Steve ... I read Romans 13:1 ................... By breaking a law, one has NOT submitted to the civil authorities. Know the law and figure a way to protesr within in. As a parent, I say don't leave the yard. So my child goes to the line, looks back ... and if they stay there - it is fine. But, if they step over the line, they have not submitted to me, even if they submit themselves to the consequences. Searcher |
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3 | Civil disobedience follow-up | Prov 3:13 | stjones | 105140 | ||
Hi, searcher; I think the meaning of "submission" is still an open question. For example, if your child left the yard to tackle the toddler next door who was about to wander into traffic, then came home and said "I know, Dad, I left the yard; no TV for a week." Did he submit? Maybe so. None of the translations I looked at used the word "obey" in Romans 13:1-7; they all used "submit" or "be subject to" (or some form thereof). So I think there's something beyond mere obedience in Paul's admonition. I don't claim that either my hypothetical protester or your child in this hypothetical situation obeyed. But I think, based on motive and acceptance of consequences, that they both may have submitted to or been subject to the relevant authority. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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