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1 | Spare the rod, spoil the child | Prov 13:24 | Searcher56 | 178388 | ||
Well this has NO Biblical foundation ... Did you study as asked? I doubt it, since you still bring up about what Jesus did. WOE to the one who FAILS to disciple their children, as directed in the Bible ... start in Proverbs. As for you - I will not discuss this matter until you study what the Bible says. |
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2 | Spare the rod, spoil the child | Prov 13:24 | MJH | 178400 | ||
Searcher, See my answer to her original question.... But to paraphrase, Proverbs are not commands. The word "child" in Proverbs 22 and 23 should be translated "young man" as it is everywhere else in scripture (that I found). The use of "son" in Proverbs 13 does not mean toddler, but son. And all proverbs was written to a young man, and other proverbs point to this "son" as being older. It is incorrect to read Proverbs as commands. To do so is to fail to understand the genre. To discipline does not equal “to punish.” Punishment may be a part of discipline, but they are not synonyms. To discipline is more of an act of guiding a person in the way they should go as a Shepherd guides a sheep; only in extreme cases is the instrument of guiding ever used to strike. Most Christian parents strike their toddlers and young children, but not their older children. Personally our family uses the spanking method so seldom that my children think we are “non-spankers” that is until they really cross the line. But for families that do not use this form of discipline, their children are no less well off as long as loving guiding discipline is used. And those who use corporal punishment have every right by God do to so, assuming it is never done out of anger or frustration. MJH |
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3 | Spare the rod, spoil the child | Prov 13:24 | DocTrinsograce | 178403 | ||
Dear MJH, You wrote, "It is incorrect to read Proverbs as commands. To do so is to fail to understand the genre." The author of Hebrews quoted Proverbs 3:11 in Hebrews 12:5, apparently using it as a command of exhortation. There are many other Proverbs that certainly echo the commands of Scripture (e.g., Proverbs 6:17; 6:32; 21:26). I agree that the genre is unique, but I'd question an assertion that would steer a believer away from submitting to the principles as something other than maxims for Godly living. Perhaps you meant something other than what you wrote? :-) On the topic at hand -- my two cents: Pain is a wonderful corrective tool and aid to memory. However, as parents, our purpose in discipline is to bring about repentance for rebellion to the commands of Scripture. That can, at times, be accomplished without resort to corporal punishment. It depends on the child and how readily they have learned to respond to the dictates of conscience. They say, "Justice is blind." I found, however, that in the area of discipline, living first by example, we must be fully cognizant of the ultimate goal, the character of the individual child, and the nature of sin; always lovingly prepared with a full repertoire of means. Fortunately, we have a sovereign Father who gives us lots of examples. In Him, Doc |
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