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1 | Ham, Noah drinking wine | Gen 9:22 | Sbate08 | 233297 | ||
Why was Ham in the wrong for Noah drinking wine? (Genesis 9:24) | ||||||
2 | Ham, Noah drinking wine | Gen 9:22 | EdB | 233298 | ||
First Noah was wrong getting drunk. Then in a lost of all inhibitions he stripped off his clothes. He was displaying himself to all that came into the tent. The wording of verse 22 "Ham saw his father" suggests more than just seeing his father naked. See reference below. Genesis 9:22 says that Ham "saw the nakedness of his father." The Hebrew means more than just looking at his father; it means that he saw with pleasure, joy, and satisfaction. Does this imply more than just looking with pleasure at his father? Does just looking merit such a terrible curse as was pronounced upon the younger son of Ham Genesis 9:24 says that Noah found out "what his younger son had done to him." This might refer to some physical act or sexual sin, but it could simply refer to Ham dishonoring and mocking Noah (Genesis 9:22). Preacher's Outline and Sermon Bible - Commentary - The Preacher's Outlineand Sermon Bible – Genesis 2. |
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3 | Ham, Noah drinking wine | Gen 9:22 | azurelaw | 233304 | ||
Dear EdB, First let me explain that I do not endorse drunkenness nor nakedness. They are, as Bible says, foolish and wrong indeed. But here, in this narrative of the Noah's time - ancient history where there was no 10 commandments or the Torah, was drunkenness and nakedness regarded wrong AT THAT TIME? Or are we using our standard to access what actually not there? Note that God has explicitly given certain commands (Gen 9:6), but nothing about drunkenness or nakedness. I always find this narrative interesting. As modern people, we do know drunkenness is foolish and nakedness is wrong. But when I put myself in the time of Noah and considering the Bible is silent on this by then, I believe the focus is more on Ham's wicked behaviour toward his father's nakedness. Shalom Azure |
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4 | Ham, Noah drinking wine | Gen 9:22 | EdB | 233305 | ||
Azure Evidently Adam and Eve were aware of nakedness as they hide from God because they were naked. So if they knew enough to hide their nakedness I think Noah should have to. As for drunkenness, getting drunk does not sneak up on you. You are fully aware of the transformation taking place in your body. God gave us sober spirits and I believe Noah understood what he was doing. Remember the sin nature had already entered man by this time. Also we have no idea what instructions God may have provided His people that were not recorded in the scripture. We often suppose because scripture doesn’t mention any dialogue between God and man there wasn’t any. Yet we know that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, I imagine they talked about a lot of things. We know God talked to Able and Cain after the fall as well as to Noah. Lastly we have to trust God. He has declared Himself just and if we really believe that then what Noah did, Noah did full well knowing it was sinful. What Ham did Ham did full well knowing it was sinful. |
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5 | Ham, Noah drinking wine | Gen 9:22 | azurelaw | 233306 | ||
Thank you for the quick response:-) Azure |
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