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1 | How does foreknowledge preclude free? | Gen 6:6 | Morant61 | 115911 | ||
Greetings Bstudent! Exactly how does God's knowledge of future events preclude freewill? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | How does foreknowledge preclude free? | Gen 6:6 | Teacher Naw | 116002 | ||
I believe in destiny (the inevitable unavoidable course of events) base on [Rom 8:29 - 38]and [Eph. 1;4 and 5].Base on these scriptual facts, that we been saved, had nothing to do with us, but was determined from before the foundation of the world. God made us, whom he has chosen from before the foundation of the world, in such a way that we only have the abilty to accomplish things that was forordained in Christ, hence the scripture - Acts 26:14 [It is hard for you to kick against the prick.']therefore our "so-called free will" is limited to the bounds of GOD's will. So we can not exercise our "so-called free will" beyond the ultimate will of GOD. Base upon this, GOD's knowledge of the future events makes impossible, man exercising is free-will beyond the will of GOD. anything u don't understand can be clarified in debt. respond if necessary |
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3 | How does foreknowledge preclude free? | Gen 6:6 | bstudent | 118589 | ||
I certainly agree with "free will to the limits of God's will." And that means I can even murder someone, as long as that murder does not impact upon God's will. But you can't be saying that such a dispicable act would be God's will or destiny. It is not destiny when bad things happen - its reaping what we and others sow or unforeseen occurrences (chance). (Eccl 9:11; 8:9; Gal 6:7) God's original purpose for the earth was "very good" - perfect. After Adam exercised his freewill to sin, God uttered the prophecy of his intentions to crush Satan and his seed by means of the "woman's" seed. His will toward man and the earth had not changed, but now he foretold a glimse of how he would rectify the situation and vindicate his name and sovereignty. The term "founding" has to do literally with the throwing down of seed, thus Jesus clarified this founding at Luke 11:50,51: "Therefore this generation will be held responsible for the blood of all the prophets that has been shed since the beginning of the world, from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, this generation will be held responsible for it all." To these same ones referred to at Rom. 8:28, 29 and Eph. 1:5, 11 , 2 Peter 1:10 says: “Do your utmost to make the calling and choosing of you sure for yourselves; for if you keep on doing these things you will by no means ever fail.” If the individuals were predestinated to salvation, they could not possibly fail, regardless of what they did. Since effort is required on the part of the individuals, it must be the class that is foreordained. God purposed that the entire class would conform to the pattern set by Jesus Christ. Those selected by God to be part of that class, however, must prove faithful if they are actually to attain the reward set before them. Isn't that more reasonable and most importantly, Scriptural? |
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4 | How does foreknowledge preclude free? | Gen 6:6 | srbaegon | 118594 | ||
Hello Dan, Be careful of using the word "chance." Proverbs 16:33 (ESV) The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the Lord. It may look like chance when it isn't. "God's original purpose for the earth was 'very good' - perfect." No, He said that was its condition. It's purpose was for habitation and to glorify Himself. "Those selected by God to be part of that class, however, must prove faithful if they are actually to attain the reward set before them." This is dangerously close to a righteousness based on deeds. Could you explain yourself? Steve |
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5 | How does foreknowledge preclude free? | Gen 6:6 | bstudent | 118837 | ||
The gift is free, thus it cannot be earned. However, it can be rejected. I would rather be good than righteous (Rom 5:7), but faith is essential. Doing the things God requires is not earning your salvation, but is intrinsic to faith. You know the verses: "And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him. (Heb 11:6) "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead." (James 2:26) True faith as James described requires that we accept God's training and do what the "great crowd of witnesses" did - faithful works of obedience. Notice what their actions led and our's can lead to: "All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness." (Heb 12:11) As regards Provervs 16:33, in ancient times, in a number of nations, doubtful questions were determined by lot. Stones or inscribed tablets were put into a vessel, shaken and then drawn out or cast forth. God was pleased to use the lot as a means of making known his will in the early history of his chosen people. It seems that the lots were thrown into the gathered folds of a robe and then drawn out. But first an appeal was made to God to decide the matter. The outcome was accepted as his will. Even Jesus’ apostles utilized the lot to choose a successor to Judas Iscariot, but their selection was set aside by Jesus’ choice of Saul. Since Pentecost, holy spirit directs Christians, but in pre-Christian times God did approve use of the lot. |
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