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1 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | Brent Douglass | 1890 | ||
Were the sons of God angels? This is one theory. However, to take such a vague reference as this and expand it with several layers of (potential, not definite) logic to arrive at a point of declaring that demons can procreate with humans is WAY BEYOND anything indicated in the Scriptures and is very poor hermeneutics. The idea that the "sons of God" here were angels is complete speculation -- as are other theories about the origin of the Nephilim. The most logical speculation, based on the evidence available to us, is that the "sons of God" is simply a reference to powerful lords of great strength and-or cunning who gave themselves that term in order to advance and raise themselves above the people; Nimrod could easily have become one of these later, as well, if it hadn't been for God's intervention at Babel. This would be a corrupting influence and would fit with the context. There are also MANY examples of leaders in more recent history that have declared themselves to have (or have been treated as having) divine ancestry. For example, the Japanese Emperor was considered divine until he officially declared himself otherwise in 1945 -- and only when his military was left with absolutely no other choice. The Antichrist will, likewise, claim divinity. This makes much more sense than starting a slide down a hill (with no real evidence of corresponding parrallels in other written history) leading to sensational (and completely speculative) stories of demons procreating with humans. Another purely speculative idea is that Adam and Eve had other children before the fall, who were then removed from them when their parents sinned. If there had been such children, who didn't fall into sin as their parents had, they could have been adopted by God -- thus "sons of God" -- and the males may have (unsuccessfully) tried to help limit the spread of evil by marrying with the women prior to the flood, then returned to the garden and left to be with God in heaven when the garden was destroyed. This is interesting fantasy but is also completely without any Biblical support and is thus purely speculative with no evidence of anything parrallel in other times. Once again, the most logical speculation, which fits best with other recorded historical experience, is that the "sons of God" were simply very powerful men who took (or were given) that term falsely as a claim or indication of their earthly greatness. |
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2 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | inHzsvc | 1920 | ||
The term "sons of God" refers to beings actually created by God in the OT. The only other three places that term is used is in the Book of Job. Most conservative scholars agree that those references, at least, refer to angels. Why does this passage in Gen. 6 not refer to the daughters of God? Why is it so hard to conceive of the Nephilim being the product of fallen angels cohabitating with the daughters of men? Does not Jude tell us that there was a group of angels that "left their first estate" and they, like Sodom and Gomorrah, went after strange flesh in fornication? Does not II Peter tell us of some angels that sinned and are now reserved unto judgment? Was not everybody except Noah and his family destroyed in the flood? That seems to tell us that Noah and his family were the only righteous ones on the Earth at that time. Does the intermingling of the lost and the saved normally produce giants? I think not. Folks, it's not far-fetched. It's good Bible interpretation. By the way, Eve is said to be the mother of "all living" in the Book of Genesis. That should do away with the heresy that Adam and Eve weren't the only humans actually created by God without an Earthly father or mother. God bless. |
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3 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | Brent Douglass | 1927 | ||
Again, it's more accurate to say that many conservative scholars postulate that they are angels. There's nothing particularly dangerous about this in the book of Job, and it's typically such a minor point as to cause no problems. I doubt it's a stand that virtually any conservative scholar would be willing to die for; they just agree on what appears to be the most logical meaning in an unclear reference within the context of Job. The problem comes when some charlatans start traveling around the nation or the world telling sensationalistic tales about holding down women who are being violently raped by invisible demons while they and their cronies are casting the demon out. |
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4 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | inHzsvc | 1942 | ||
Brent, still, you'll have to admit that those passages in Job leave little room for doubt that the "sons of God" are angels, at least in those passages. It seems viable that the same meaning would be taken from the same Hebrew word in Genesis. I believe fallen angels did cohabitate with the daughters of men, but, I do NOT believe of "sensationalistic tales about holding down women who are being violently raped by invisible demons while they and thier cronies are casting the demon out." In fact, I really don't know what that means. If you disagree with my previous assertion, please answer the questions and statements in it. Don't put words in my mouth. Thanks, and God bless you and yours. | ||||||