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1 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | Brent Douglass | 1890 | ||
Were the sons of God angels? This is one theory. However, to take such a vague reference as this and expand it with several layers of (potential, not definite) logic to arrive at a point of declaring that demons can procreate with humans is WAY BEYOND anything indicated in the Scriptures and is very poor hermeneutics. The idea that the "sons of God" here were angels is complete speculation -- as are other theories about the origin of the Nephilim. The most logical speculation, based on the evidence available to us, is that the "sons of God" is simply a reference to powerful lords of great strength and-or cunning who gave themselves that term in order to advance and raise themselves above the people; Nimrod could easily have become one of these later, as well, if it hadn't been for God's intervention at Babel. This would be a corrupting influence and would fit with the context. There are also MANY examples of leaders in more recent history that have declared themselves to have (or have been treated as having) divine ancestry. For example, the Japanese Emperor was considered divine until he officially declared himself otherwise in 1945 -- and only when his military was left with absolutely no other choice. The Antichrist will, likewise, claim divinity. This makes much more sense than starting a slide down a hill (with no real evidence of corresponding parrallels in other written history) leading to sensational (and completely speculative) stories of demons procreating with humans. Another purely speculative idea is that Adam and Eve had other children before the fall, who were then removed from them when their parents sinned. If there had been such children, who didn't fall into sin as their parents had, they could have been adopted by God -- thus "sons of God" -- and the males may have (unsuccessfully) tried to help limit the spread of evil by marrying with the women prior to the flood, then returned to the garden and left to be with God in heaven when the garden was destroyed. This is interesting fantasy but is also completely without any Biblical support and is thus purely speculative with no evidence of anything parrallel in other times. Once again, the most logical speculation, which fits best with other recorded historical experience, is that the "sons of God" were simply very powerful men who took (or were given) that term falsely as a claim or indication of their earthly greatness. |
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2 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | gagnon | 24107 | ||
I would also like (with all due respect) to suggest that it is also poor hermaneutics to suggest demons are merely fallen angels (as you have indicated in your first paragraph). That also is only one theory. Please show me where Scripture indicates angels and demons are one and the same, whether fallen or not? | ||||||
3 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | Morant61 | 24115 | ||
Greetings Gagnon! The evidence is pretty strong that demons are simply fallen angels. 1) Satan is called the prince of Demons - Mt. 12:23-26. 2) The demons (legion) were afraid that Christ was going to send them to the Abyss - Luke 8:30-31. 3) The ruler of the Abyss is called an angel - Rev. 9:11. Thus, these all point to demons being fallen angels who are ruled by Satan, but bound for the Abyss. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | gagnon | 24695 | ||
Tim, In his book "They Shall Expel Demons" page 91, Derek Prince states two possible origins of demons: 1. fallen angels associated with Satan in his rebellion against God. 2. disembodied spirits of a pre-Adamic race that perished under some judgement of God not recorded in detail in Scripture. Mr. Prince goes into more detail in his book. He acknowledges that it is impossible to say with certainty which, if either, of these explanations is true. He considers if foolish to pursue the matter much farther than that. However, based on his experience in dealing with them, Mr. Prince tends to beleive demons are the disembodied spirits of a pre-Adamic race. I am challenging the assumption that demons are fallen angels only because scripture does NOT prove this is the case. It is only one possible explanation. Respectfully yours, Galen |
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5 | Spiritual beings procreate? | Gen 6:4 | Morant61 | 24761 | ||
Greetings Galen! I appreciate your response. I haven't posted about the theory of a pre-adamic race before. My basic position is that Scripture doesn't ever teach that there was such a thing. So, I would say that of Mr. Prince's two options, only number one would be possible! I would be interested in what Scripture he provides for a pre-adamic race! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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