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1 | angelic beings pro-create or not? | Gen 6:2 | sdtaylor99 | 108070 | ||
Thank you, Markarios. That gives a clearer meaning to Genesis 6:2. | ||||||
2 | angelic beings pro-create or not? | Gen 6:2 | EdB | 108168 | ||
Actually that really doesn't prove a thing. All it says is angels don't marry. That speaks nothing of angels ability or lack of ability to procreate with humans. Perhaps they are all male. Perhaps they can not procreate with other angels but can with human. Perhaps not. The fact is we just don't know. For someone to say angels can not procreate with humans is doctrine of man for there is nothing in the Bible to say one way or another. EdB |
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3 | angelic beings pro-create or not? | Gen 6:2 | Makarios | 108300 | ||
Yes, it does prove much more than you are willing to admit, Ed. Angels do not marry, angels do not procreate, and angels most certainly do not engage in any sinful activity. I ask that you would just stop for once and ponder one thing with me right now. When the fall of man came in Genesis 3, Satan had to have already fell from grace. Therefore, if Satan, and those angels that would rebel against God with Satan, had already fallen before Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit, then how would those angels have procreated with human women? The only human woman around was Eve. Are you saying that angels rebelled by procreating with human women? After the fall of Satan, the angels that chose to stay loyal to God are elect for all time! Angels do not have a "choice" of whether or not they can sin. Angels do not have a "sin nature" in them as we do. Angels cannot fall into sin, but only do that which God directs them to do. I believe that the angels that chose to stay true to the Lord are His elect angels, and unable to sin. Therefore, this is some of the reason that I have that will ultimately prove your reasoning wrong, my friend. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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4 | angelic beings pro-create or not? | Gen 6:2 | EdB | 108349 | ||
Makarios Since I can't seem to reason with you read this 6:2 the sons of God saw the daughters of men. The sons of God, identified elsewhere almost exclusively as angels (Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7), saw and took wives of the human race. This produced an unnatural union which violated the God-ordained order of human marriage and procreation (Gen. 2:24). Some have argued that the sons of God were the sons of Seth who cohabited with the daughters of Cain; others suggest they were perhaps human kings wanting to build harems. But the passage puts strong emphasis on the angelic vs. human contrast. The NT places this account in sequence with other Genesis events and identifies it as involving fallen angels who indwelt men (see notes on 2 Pet. 2:4,5; Jude 6). Matthew 22:30 does not necessarily negate the possibility that angels are capable of procreation, but just that they do not marry. To procreate physically, they had to possess human, male bodies. MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed.) (Ge 6:2-3). Nashville: Word Pub. Also I know you have a Jewish friend ask him. I know that in many Jewish teachings that this is considered a reference to angels. The Jewish book Enoch speaks of this in more detail and even names the angels involved. I completely understand the Book of Enoch is not scriptural and I'm not implying that it is even correct. What I demonstrating is this issue is so uncertain that it has been the subject of discussion for many thousands of years. Many men that have devoted their lives to the study of scripture have not been able to resolve this issue and for you to say you have the answer is going out on a limb. Perhaps it would better serve you if you argued this point with MacArthur as I'm apparently unable to show you where your saying things that scripture simply doesn't say. As I have said everything I know about this subject and unless you have something else to offer I see no point in continuing this. However If you have new material or if I come across something let us consider that. EdB |
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5 | angelic beings pro-create or not? | Gen 6:2 | Makarios | 108351 | ||
Ed, I can produce many a source that would also support my point of view, and I have already done it here at this Forum. As for my Jewish friend, he is dead now. But there will be no "convincing me" on this topic, my friend. Makarios |
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6 | angelic beings pro-create or not? | Gen 6:2 | EdB | 108363 | ||
Okay then what is the point of continuing? Your saying something that simply isn't in the Bible and I can't lead you to see that. EdB |
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7 | angelic beings pro-create or not? | Gen 6:2 | Makarios | 108367 | ||
EdB, You are unable, or (perhaps more accurately) unwilling to see my point of view on the subject, which I believe is absolutely right, taken Scripture as a whole. I have responded to your point of view. Makarios |
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8 | angelic beings pro-create or not? | Gen 6:2 | EdB | 108378 | ||
I see your point and had have said so many times. The only thing I'm saying it scripture is not definite on this issue. EdB |
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