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1 | Distiction in "will" not "rationality" | Gen 3:1 | Mommapbs | 154168 | ||
Greetings Doc - sorry to use this thread but I didn't want to post a general question as I would appreciate your insight here. Please comment on this statement I read in a draft of an author's book: "There is no wrath in God." The author's main focus is on God is love; he does not deny that God's wrath exists, but from what I understand, he does not see "wrath" as an attribute. I guess I struggle because I see wrath as a part of God's holiness and justice; mercy w/o justice is not mercy also comes to mind here. Thanks for anything you have to say on this topic. mommapbs PS:reference Ps 78:59 et al. |
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2 | Distiction in "will" not "rationality" | Gen 3:1 | DocTrinsograce | 154209 | ||
Dear Momma, I hope you are doing well! The author you mention is expressing a common, modern view. His book may be well received by the masses, since our world desires a God to which they are not obligated. There is no doubt that wrath, as an attribute of God, is quite orthodox. Furthermore, it is Biblical! :-) I frequently wonder how the new evangelical movements can so utterly bypass, or -- as your author does -- deny outright this attribute of God. From what do these people think we are saved? Actually we are saved by God from God! (cf Matt 3:7; Luke 3:7; John 3:36; Eph 5:6; Col 3:6, etc.) Indeed, it is an inescapable aspect of God's judgement (Rom 2:5). God Himself will pour out His entire unmitigated wrath on unrepentant man. I appreciate brother Brad's quotes from Pink. The following articles/sermons might be of interest to you: http://www.pbministries.org/books/gill/Doctrinal_Divinity/Book_1/book1_17.htm http://www.jonathanedwards.com/sermons/Warnings/sinners.htm http://www.jonathan-edwards.org/WrathUttermost.html Also, I've found Dr. Bob Deffinbaugh's points on the wrath of God to be valuable: (1) Godly wrath is vastly different from the wrath of man (James 1:20). (2) The wrath of God is always in accordance with the standards set down in Scripture for man’s conduct and the warnings God has given for disobedience (Deuteronomy 29:26-28; 30:15-20; 2 Samuel 12:9-10; 2 Kings 22:10-13; 24:2; 2 Chronicles 19:8-10; 34:18-28; 36:15-16; Jeremiah 22:11-12; 44:2-6). (3) The wrath of God is in accordance with the deeds of men. God’s wrath is always in direct proportion to man’s sin (Psalm 28:4; Isaiah 59:18; Jeremiah 17:10; 21:14; 25:14; Ezekiel 20:44; 24:14; 36:19). (4) God’s wrath is slow and controlled, not sudden and explosive (Exodus 34:6; Numbers 14:18). (5) God’s wrath comes after warning of judgment (see, for example, the warnings given to men in the days of Noah (Genesis 6-9), of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19), and throughout the Old Testament by the prophets). (6) God’s wrath is always provoked by man’s sin (Deuteronomy 4:25; 9:18; Jeremiah 25:6-7; 32:32). (7) God wrath is not exercised in sin but in righteousness (Romans 2:5; James 1:19-20). In Him, Doc |
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3 | Distiction in "will" not "rationality" | Gen 3:1 | Mommapbs | 154231 | ||
Thank you Doc - excellent points. I'll be anxious to look at these when I return in 2 weeks from vacation (with no internet!) so I respectfully request a leave of absence from the Forum for this time! Blessings, mommapbs |
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4 | Distiction in "will" not "rationality" | Gen 3:1 | DocTrinsograce | 154238 | ||
No Internet is a vacation? :-) | ||||||
5 | Distiction in "will" not "rationality" | Gen 3:1 | Mommapbs | 154363 | ||
Withdrawal comes to mind! :-) | ||||||