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1 | Heb. 6:4-6 Security | Gen 1:1 | Beja | 219976 | ||
Light, Let me clarify my thoughts in a few concise statements, so that any further statements I make in a less organized way aren't misunderstood. 1. I believe that none who come to saving faith and repentance through Christ will ever loose their salvation. 2. I believe all scripture when rightly understood agrees with itself, therefore this passage can not be teaching the elect loosing their salvation. 3. I believe that this is a difficult passage, and therefore we can not simply say it says one thing without a strong defense, and then wonder why people don't just "believe it" to be the right interpretation. 4. Anytime, anywhere in scripture that I can not see -why- an author said what he did when he did, then I assume there is something I have not fully understood yet, even though I might understand the passage for the most part. Some of the best insights I've gleaned in the past why preparing sermons, was when I refused to stop until I knew why the train of thought went from one subject to the next the way it did. 5. I do not see why at this point in time, the author of Hebrews decided to present a hypothetically impossible situation about loosing salvation. I can understand somebody doing that, and I can understand the values of it as Spurgeon presented it, though I can not understand how that particular thing fits into what the author of hebrews was saying before and after he said it. 6. Because I can not see how it fits with that context, I assume there is something I do not yet grasp about the passage. That could mean that Spurgeon is right, and I just need to figure out how it fits. Or, that could mean Spurgeon is wrong. But what it certainly means is that I haven't fully figured it out yet and therefore I must keep questioning my understanding of the passage and putting it to the test. That sums up my thoughts on it, I hope it helped clarify what I am thinking. In Christ, Beja |
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2 | Heb. 6:4-6 Security | Gen 1:1 | lightedsteps | 219985 | ||
Hi Beja I can honestly say we are of the same mind as far as the irrevocable nature of our salvation. I also respect your integrity as for your seeking of the truth. I feel a mutual striving for this illusive knowledge. Always keeping in mind our God is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him. You are right I do the same thing as I believe everyone that desires to possess the truth should do. Never giving up for in our indever we are in effect seeking knocking and asking. With that in mind we know we will be rewarded by God. He has promised our labors will not be in vain. We should persevere being diligent to rightly divide the word of truth. A tool that I have used most often is to recite a passage (I am having trouble understanding) out loud attempting to capture the same tone as the author meant them. Even as though God Himself was speaking these very words to me. I have found when I do this if I take these words spoken in the bible personally I can then hear the truth to be found in them. In doing so I have experienced God speaking His word to me in such a way that it has at times changed the belief I had in a certain passage. When we read the bible we do so with our reason our intellect we also interpret what is being taught within the passage comparing what we are reading with what we already know. There are times "we" might be getting in our own way. But when we read a passage out loud that we are having trouble with we then only hear it our brains are incapable of speaking hearing reasoning interpreting comparing at the same time. Our intellect then is effectively bypassed. If we are intent on speaking the words as they would have been said we will then hear them as the would have been meant. At this point I would advise you to read from Hebrews 5:11 through 6:9 this seems as though it could be a complete thought all of which would then be in context. Maybe your hearing it rather than studying it will help. We have a tendency to keep seeing the same things over and over again. My prayer is that this will aid in your understanding lighted steps |
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