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1 | Heb. 6:4-6 Security | Gen 1:1 | Val | 219814 | ||
In the Colossians 1:21-23 passage the 23rd verse says "if you continue" in the faith. This verse does not mean that continuing in the faith is what saves you. It means that the proof of your salvation is continuing in the faith. Paul explains that salvation is by grace alone through faith. Adding this verse to grace would be adding something else, in this case;works. I looked up the Galatians passage but do not see your point from this passage. The Hebrews 3:6, 14 again speaks of the proof of salvation; not the means of salvation. Whichever phrase one uses should not matter. Perseverance of the Saints, Once Saved Always Saved. The same conclusion is reached. Both teach that salvation cannot be lost. It is not new Christians that hold to these passages that they believe salvation can be lost; it is entire denominations. One comes to mind is the Nazarenes. There is a comedian in the south. A christian comedian and she says her cousin has been lost and saved a dozen times. On the other side there are those who may have assurance of salvation from man but not from God. Therefore the terminology is not the problem, it is man. |
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2 | Heb. 6:4-6 Security | Gen 1:1 | Beja | 219818 | ||
Val, You've stated that these refer to proofs of salvation, not means of salvation. To that I say a hearty amen. I'm sorry if what I typed sounded like I meant otherwise. Though I would prefer the term evidence rather than proof but I think we are of the same mind in that. The point I was trying to make is that these are evidences that God brings about in us, and not from our own doing. Not only this, but these evidences (continuing to trust in Christ via the gospel) are things that God always work in us. Therefore in situations where there is a lack of them, we say no salvation has occurred. Not because they are necessary as a means, but they always flow as a result. This is the doctrine of perseverance of the saints. That those whom God saves, He also keeps in the faith throughout their life. Summing it up: Saving faith is a life long faith. I hope this helps to clarify, my first response didn't go through but perhaps that was God's mercy. It was written hastily before church this morning and this one has a bit more organization to it. In Christ, Beja |
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