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1 | Who was Abraham ? | Gen 17:5 | adex | 144999 | ||
Who was Abraham, and what relationship are there between him and faith? | ||||||
2 | Who was Abraham ? | Gen 17:5 | greentwiga | 145002 | ||
Abe was a neat man. He was a wandering Aramean from Aram in North Mesopotamia, in Turkey. They were moon god worshippers. There were several concepts in worship. Loyalty. As long as you were loyal to your king (your God) you could do anything you wanted to noncitizens of the king. Righteousness. All civilizations/religions had laws like don't murder, don't steal - from other citizens. Magic. Performing rituals got God to do what you wanted. Abraham started something unique. Abe believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness. No more currying God's favor. By faith, he offered up Isaac, and was given a substitute sacrifice. An attitude of holiness, not magic was what God wanted. Abe prayed for Sodom, that hated city of oppressors. God held them to the same standard as anyone else, and Abe couldn't rejoice in unbelievers deaths, but prayed for them. Noncitizens were treated to the same standards. This was a totally new concept, and in rudimentary form, we can see the Christian standards of life by grace. What God desires is not sacrifice but holiness, and we achieve it by faith, not by works, that is God makes us holy. We do not live holy to gain God's favor. This was the revolution of Abraham. greentwiga |
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3 | Who was Abraham ? | Gen 17:5 | srbaegon | 145034 | ||
Hello greentwiga, I'm curious where you get that Abram was from northern Mesopotamia when Scripture says he was from Ur which is southern. Also, I would say that what God desires is not sacrifice but obedience (1 Sam 15:22). And we demonstrate faith by obedience (John 3:36; James 2:18). Steve |
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4 | Who was Abraham ? | Gen 17:5 | greentwiga | 145073 | ||
No Steve, Scripture says Abe came from Ur of the Chaldees. It is only a recent interpretation, from Wooley, that it is the Ur of Southern Mesopotamia, Ur of the Sumerians. It only became Chaldean around 600 BC. There is another Ur. It is just north of Haran. It is called Sanliurfa now. The name means glorious Urfa. Muslims have consitered it the traditional birthplace of Abraham for far longer than Wooley's Idea. Furthermore, Abraham told his servant to go to his birthplace, and the servant went to the region around Haran. My country is also translated my native land (eg NIV)and the Hebrew means my birthland. Aram was never southern Mesopotamia. Naharaim means between the rivers. Gen 24:1-10 You are very right about obedience, but obedience does not earn us anything. Abe was the first to gain righteousness by faith, and have obedience be the outcome.This was a radically different concept that he received from God, and spread to others. greentwiga |
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