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1 | Radioman - What did God say in Exo 6:3? | Gen 17:1 | Morant61 | 78979 | ||
Greetings Truthfinder! Good evening my friend! I'll give you the same answer I have always given you. In Is. 43:10, Jehovah says that there is only ONE God. There aren't any other gods. There are many things which people think are gods, but they are not. There are many things which people call gods, but they are not. Unlike the JW's, I believe what Jehovah said! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Radioman - What did God say in Exo 6:3? | Gen 17:1 | Truthfinder | 79029 | ||
Hi Tim :) Yes, for a certainty I agree with Is. 43:10. I also agree with the other texts I have quoted that tell us not interpretation but tell us there are indeed other gods. You cannot ignor other scriptures to make a point in your theology You merely conclude that these other gods are false gods thus not in actuality real gods at all. In all seriousnes is this sound reasoning? I also agree that ‘there is only One True God” as John 7:18,28 and John 17:3 tells us. And the NWT renders ha·´El´ as “the [true] God” in all 32 places where it occurs in Masoretic Hebrew text found in Codex Leningrad B 19A as presented in BHK and BHS in the singular, namely, in Ge 31:13; 35:1, 3; 46:3; De 7:9; 10:17; 33:26; 2Sa 22:31, 33, 48; Ne 1:5; 9:32; Job 13:8; 21:14; 22:17; 31:28; 33:6; 34:10, 37; 40:9; Ps 18:30, 32, 47; 57:2; 68:19, 20; 77:14; 85:8; Isa 5:16; 42:5; Jer 32:18; Da 9:4. The plural of ´el is ´e·lim´. In M ´e·lim´ occurs once preceded by the definite article, namely, in Ex 15:11, where it refers to other gods. It is a given that idols are false gods but nonetheless are gods to some people. In researching the Greek word for “true” (alethinos) on page of 158 of Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words we find that it says it can have one of several meanings, depending on the context and usage of the author or speaker. It can mean:"genuine, ideal, real. A) Of God in contrast to other gods, b) of Christ, c) God’s words, d) His ways, e) His judgments, f) His riches g) His worshippers, h) their hearts, I) the witness of the Apostle John j) the spiritural antitypical Tabernacle. Likewise with Baur-Arndt-Gingrich Greek English-Lexicon (BAGD), alethinos can mean:"genuine, real . . . Of God in contrast to other gods, who are not real . . . true in the sense of the reality possessed only by the archetype, not by its copies." Allow me to illustrate "reality possessed only by the original or as the BAGD puts it; archetype, not by its copies," consider John 1:9, where John says concerning Jesus, "The true light [to phos to alethinon] that gives light to every sort of man was about to come into the world" (compare 1Jo 2:8). Does this mean that Jesus' disciples (Mt 5:14) are "false" lights? No. It means they are not the original light, but copies of it, giving forth the light they received from Jesus. Similarly, when Jesus contrasted himself, "the true bread from heaven [ton arton ek tou ouranou ton alethinon]," with the manna that God gave the Israelites, did this mean the manna was not really food? (Joh 6:32-33) Surely he meant the manna was not food in the far more excellent sense that his life-saving sacrifice (his flesh-Joh 6:51, 54-56) would prove to be. The manna, and other earthly foods, give only temporary sustenance; they are but a copy of the reality possessed by the real food God gives. Notice the contrast made in Hebrews 8 between the "true tent" (tes skenes tes alethines) in verse 2 and the typical tent God commanded Moses to make. (verse 5; 9:9) In all these texts alethinos is contrasted, not with something "false," but is used to describe that which is the archetype as opposed to that which is a copy of the original. So being reasonable and reasoning on a matter we can come to accurate conclusions as I have shown. |
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3 | Radioman - What did God say in Exo 6:3? | Gen 17:1 | Morant61 | 79038 | ||
Greetings Truthfinder! This is an excellent example of why I haven't made much effort to respond to your posts lately. Is. 43:10, and the rest of the Scriptures I haves listed several times, do not say that there is only one 'true' God. They do not say that YHWH is greater than other gods. They all say that there are NO OTHER gods period. People can worship money, but that doesn't make it a real god. The JW's are guilty of paganism. In their rush to deny the true identity of Christ, they have created many 'other' gods in clear violation of YHWH's plain statement. If you want to be reasonable my friend, believe YHWH when He says that there is no other God. You examples don't work concerning the 'bread of heaven, because Jesus didn't say, "There is no other bread besides me", but YHWH did say that there are no other gods besides me. Believe it or not! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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