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1 | How long is a Biblical Generation ? | Gen 15:16 | DocTrinsograce | 229194 | ||
Dear biblicalman, Sir, everyone has "an axe to grind." Scholars attempt to be regarded as unbiased, but I have yet to meet one for which it was anything more than a polite fiction. As Christians we understand this fruit as arising from man’s fallen nature (Jeremiah 17:9; Matthew 15:19). But this all seems very peculiar: literate people who cannot count and professional counters who cannot read or write. Hmmm. The roots of Judeo-Christian faith has to do with the Word of God; i.e., text. Such a foundation makes literacy an essential skill. Certainly literacy fell among those of Israel who were not taken into captivity. But if we are talking about the early descendants of Jacob: How were the early Jews – i.e., those who stood at Sinai and swore to keep them (Exodus 24:3-7) -- to comply with the explicit command of Moses without the ability to read? Those commands included: To read the Shema multiple times a day, as it is written "and [you] shall talk of them [the Law] when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise." (Deuteronomy 6:7b). To learn Torah and to teach it, as it is written "You shall teach them diligently to your children” (Deuteronomy 6:7a). For every man to write a Torah scroll for himself, as it is written "Now therefore write this song and teach it to the people of Israel. Put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the people of Israel." (Deuteronomy 31:19). Even if the logic were sound, I do not think that there is a single Rabbi that would agree with your assessment of the children of Israel. Clearly, Moses did not. I wish I was not traveling, as I would be able to cite ancient and contemporary sources. In Him, Doc |
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2 | How long is a Biblical Generation ? | Gen 15:16 | biblicalman | 229196 | ||
Hi Doc, Well it is true that we all have axe's to grind, you as well as me. And that is why it is important that we consider a wide range of views. LOL I have never suggested that there were people who could use numeracy and not read. Numeracy was a highly skilled art unlikely for those who could not read. Although of course as writing grew out of the original use of numbers in ancient business documents you may have a point in the initial stages. In both the UK and the US today there are people who cannot read and write. And that in spite of intense efforts to make everyone literate. And the standard of numeracy for many is very low (you would probably be surprised to know how low, even after years of schooling). So why should it be surprising that in a land of farmers, who never went to school, and who worked hard from daybreak to nightfall trying to extract a living out of their small plots of land, and their few sheep and goats, and had no books to read or need to send letters, literacy should be at a very low level? It would be surprising if it was otherwise. Of course, there were always those who could read and write to some extent (especially among the relativey wealthy), and there were the comparatively few who were 'scholars', especially among the leading priests, but they were almost certainly in the minority. To you the word of God is written text, but to the ancients it was memorised text. It is true that copies of the Scriptures were available in the Temple, but comparatively few had access to them. And they were not easy to read. And copying was an arduous task, and writing materials very expensive. There would not be many copies outside the Temple, especially before the time of David. The ancients had retentive memories. As the Law was read out to them at the feasts (Deut 31.11-13; etc), it would not be long before they could repeat it word for word, especially as their fathers would have taught them it. And they would then repeat it to their children, as the Scriptures told them to do. Note that Moses was told to write the song and 'put it in their mouths' (not on their tablets). So Moses agreed with me. You may say, 'they were told to write it on their gates and on their doorposts' (Deut 6.9). But they would call in the signwriter to do that. Yes, they would repeat the Shema every day, but they would not read it. Few would have any written material. They knew it by heart. Consider how Muslims today consider knowing the Quran by heart (even though they do not understand it) to be something to be earnestly sought after. I am afraid I do not look on modern Rabbis as authorities on ancient history. Like most they look back from a biased viewpoint. Reading and numeracy is so second nature to us that we find it difficult to conceive of a world where it was limited. But I am even now involved in teaching my granddaughters to count, and it is an arduous business, even with all the numeracy games available. Do you think the poor among the ancients had time to spare for such activity? What use would it be to them? There were far better things to spend their limited time on. Best wishes |
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