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1 | I agree with you 100 percent. But... | Hebrews | bjanko | 2435 | ||
Yes. To say that a true believer would choose to leave, betrays a total misunderstanding of what salvation is. It is a change from spiritual death to spiritual life. We have a new nature. We do not strive to create a new nature within ourselves, but rather God gives us that new nature. Therefore, though we might struggle with sin, God, working through the Holy Spirit in our new man, will not let us fall. And the Spirit will never leave. The only way we could leave God is if the Spirit left us. But God has promised never to leave nor forsake his people. (Hebrews) So it just does not make any sense to speak of believers leaving the faith. It might LOOK like that, but that's not what we see. What we do see are people who have never been saved, finally giving up the act and simply living, by nature, out the lusts of the flesh, determining to wander elsewhere on their path to destruction. Their being in the church was a mere happenstance; even they themselves may have been self-deceived. Nonetheless, no true believer ever leaves. He might have many great struggles, but he will never ultimately turn from God, or lose his salvation. After all, he never gave himself his salvation in the first place, did he? No. The Arminian believes he chose God; so it makes sense he might think he could choose another way as well. The Calvinist says that God chose the believer and if God choooses, who can resist His will? (Romans 9) |
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2 | I agree with you 100 percent. But... | Hebrews | kalos | 2468 | ||
I agree with you. For example, you write: "To say that a true believer would choose to leave, betrays a total misunderstanding of what salvation is." I believe that if we understood what salvation is -- what made our salvation possible, the fact that salvation is "of the Lord" (not of our weak human efforts), what takes place when a person gets saved, what all God does for and in an individual when He saves that individual -- if we understood what salvation IS, we would have a clearer understanding that the believer now possesses Eternal Life. We would better understand that God does the saving and God does the keeping. There is not one thing you and I can do to merit or earn our salvation, keep it, or add anything to it. | ||||||