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1 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | PYLE | 290 | ||
COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | ||||||
2 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | ekip | 292 | ||
See notes on Luke 8:13 and Hebrews 6:4 | ||||||
3 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | kalos | 700 | ||
Is it possible for redeemed people to lose their salvation? . . . The Bible says no. One who is saved "has everlasting life, and . . . is passed from death unto life" (John 5:24). Eternal life by definition cannot be temporary. It is the present possession of all those who have truly trusted Christ. Romans 8:28-39 reveals clearly that there is nothing in the universe that can separate the elect from the love of God. The One who chose to save you "is able to keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy" (Jude 24). . . . According to Scripture, people who profess to know Christ at one time but later deny Him were never really saved to begin with. First John 2:19 says, "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us." A true believer will never depart from the faith (Philippians 1:6), so those who do so are revealing that they were never truly saved (John 8:31; Hebrews 3:14). . . . Even true Christians can sin, however, and because of that may lack assurance of salvation (Psalm 51:12). A failure to grow spiritually can also rob us of the confidence that we are God's children (2 Peter 1:9). But anyone indwelt by the Holy Spirit is secure eternally, because He is the "deposit guaranteeing our inheritance" (Ephesians 1:14). . . . For further study: John MacArthur, Eternal Security (tape series). © 2000 Grace to You |
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4 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | jg8ball | 1128 | ||
Sorry JVH0212, but I can't seem to leave you alone. Please don't put ideas into passages. Read them for what they are. Following are the verses you quoted with my interpretations: John 5:24 is simply saying that those that are saved have everlasting life. It does not say anything about not being able to lose that salvation. Romans 8:28-39 is talking about external things will not be able to separate us from God. Jude 24 - Yes, God is able to keep us from stumbling but if we refuse the help then it's our problem. 1 John 2:19 - is talking about how we will know it is the last hour (v 18). I believe it's kind of saying that we will be suprised when we see friends and family turn away from God because they were not saved because if they were saved then they would not have turned their backs on Jesus. Note that verse 24 says "See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father." Note the "If it does". This implies that it is possible that to turn your back on what you once knew. And if we do keep what we heard in us, what will happen? Verse 25 - "And this is what he promised us -- even eternal life." You are again putting ideas in Phil 1:6 that are not there. Read it again. It is saying that God will not bail out on us and will keep his offer of salvation until the end. Did you even read John 8:31? Jesus is telling the Jews that believed in him (therefore saved) that If they hold to His teaching, they are really his disciples. In otherwords, Jesus is telling this group of saved people that if they continue belive they will be saved which implies that if they stop believing, then they will not be saved. Hebrews 3:14 "We have come to share in Christ IF we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first." Notice the "IF" If I didn't know better I'd think you were trying to prove that it's possible for a person to renounce their own salvation. Psalm 51:11-12 "Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me the joy of your salvation and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me." The author of this psalm obviously thought he could lose God. 2 Peter 5-10 is telling us to make every effort to make sure we keep the "good qualities" and that IF we do these things we will not fall. Eph 1:14 - Yes, the Holy Spirit is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance. Jesus died for our sins. Our salvation is guaranteed (as long as we do not renounce that salvation). In otherwords, if you take a pop (or soda) bottle to the store they will give you the deposit - it's guranteed unless of course you decide to throw that bottle out the window on the way. When you get to the store, you'll have nothing. And one more verse I'll add: 2 Peter 2:20 "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." It doesn't matter who the "they" are (in this case he's talking about false teachers) it's more important to notice that the "they" were saved becase they escaped the corruption of the world thru Jesus and then lost that salvation (entangled and overcome in the ways of the world) and will pay dearly for this. |
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5 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | kalos | 1139 | ||
Your interpretation of the various passages quoted in your message, I can tell, are your honest and sincere beliefs. Thousands, even millions, of people share your interpretation and beliefs. In fact at one time I believed exactly as you do. Whether I have become a traitor or a convert is something we won't know until we sit down in that big Bible class in the sky and are taught by the Author Himself. . . . I got sidetracked if I was trying to get you to change those beliefs. "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." My focus should have been on sharing my understanding of the doctrine and of the Scriptures I used, leaving you to decide for yourself -- not to get you to agree with me. Your patient, reasonable reply has helped me to get back on track. Thank you for your patient, conscientious, well written reply. |
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