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1 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | godissovereign | 82995 | ||
For those of you who take Psalm 51:10 and say that since David had to plead for a clean heart and a renewed spirit, then obviously he lost his salvation...no WAY! First of all, understand the context...David just went and committed a heinous crime (which, even believers sin...but this is their attitude of repentance). Look at a lot of the Bible's header for this chapter...it is a Psalm of Repentance. David is so broken with his sin when he says that "against you only have I sinned" (Psalm 51:10). David realizes that his sin wasn't against the person that he wronged, but against God...He sees his sin as so horrible that the only way to fix it would be for God to create in him a clean heart. Have you ever sinned against God and just totally felt horrible afterwards! To the point of absolute sicknes...if not, then you don't have a true understanding of the horribleness (if that's a word) of sin. David felt so sick in his sin that he begged the Lord to create in him a clean heat (some versions say new heart) and renew a "steadfast spirit within me". He doesn't ask for his salvation to be given back...but renewed. How many of you have ever been late on returning a library book that you still wanted to read...sure, it is overdue, but you can call up and ask to have it renewed...you still have the book in your possession, but you are renewing it. David didn't lose his salvation, but rather felt so wicked that he asks, for his own sake that the steadfast spirit be renewed. Then he asks that the Lord "not cast me away from your presence, and do not take your Holy Spirit from me". That doesn't say that it was taken..he is asking that it not be taken away!! Have you ever felt so bad about your sin that you feel that you deserve nothing but death??? Sure you have, if you're saved....David felt that way...he saw the vastness of his sin and just realized that he in no way deserves salvation, so he is begging God not to take it away....God in no means took away his salvation though!!! "restore unto me the joy of Your salvation" When you repent, you regain the joy of knowing that God saves you. And look at the word "YOUR"...it isn't David's salvation, but rather the salvation provided by God alone.... continued |
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2 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | godissovereign | 82996 | ||
Anyway, this is getting very long...but it all boils down to whether or not you believe that God is God, and He is sovereign above all else!!! I see so many people here either speculating, without Scriptural backup...who wants opinions!! God gave us the Bible for a reason, and that is so that it can be the difinitive source for our needs! People who say that we are not sufficient in the Bible alone are not saved!! I know that sounds very harsh...but the Bible is inspired by God, and God alone...read Psalm 139 and see how much God knows about us...he knows our hearts, our anxious thoughts etc. So, if God indeed knows all of that, and has known all of that, then He knows everything that we are going to need answered in the Bible. God inspired the Bible then in Revalation claimed it to be the single authority, not to be added to or taken away from. So to say that you can't find an answer to questions in the Bible is saying that God does not know your needs and that because of God's lack of knowledge, you need to seek elsewhere for that knowledge! Please people, I beg you, read the scripture as it is, don't try to interpret the Bible to fit your beliefs!! So many people do that...look at tele-evangelsists...they are rolling dough because they have conformed the Bible to say that health and wealth come from giving to the church. We are called to live life according to God's will...not to try to conform God's will into our plans for life!! Do you truly believe that God has a sovereign plan for you and that He is faithful to reveal that plan as He deams necessary? Look at how Jesus instructed us to pray in the Bible: "Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be your name. YOUR kingdom come YOUR will be done, on earth as it is in heaven...." Jesus does not tell us to pray that God gives me what I desire, or that God causes something to work out the way I want it...but rather that God would work his will out in my life! If you truly believe in the Lord, then you aren't going to be doubting your salvation, you are going to be praying that God's will be done in your life!!!!! Here is the difinitive, final answer to this question! You are a new creation, 2 Corinthians 5:17 says, "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come." This verse summarizes and finalizes this debate!! DO NOT INTERPRET IT ANY OTHER WAY THAN THAT WE ARE A NEW CREATURE...the old has "passed away", and the new has come. That shows a complete regeneration of a new person, dead to self and alive for Christ. Look at a few of these verses, Roman 6:8, Romans 6:11, Romans 8:1, ROMANS 8:10, 1 Cor. 5:13, GALATIANS 2:20 (THIS IS A FOUNDATIONAL PASSAGE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE SAVED!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE THAT SALVATION) Ephesians 2:1 says that we are dead in our trespasses...so if you say that we can lose salvation...how in the heck can we become alive in our trespasses again?? The word dead is used on purpose...it is irreversible!! If you could lose your salvation, God would have said turned away from your transgressions. The true Christian can say what Phil. 1:21 says when it tells us that "for me to live is Christ, and to die is gain" We are living for Christ...if you live for Christ truly, then you cannot and will not turn away from Christ!!! Now, if you do turn away from Christ then you are not "living for Christ". I know I was ranting for a while, and this is super long...but people, we are promised a free gift of salvation unto ETERNAL life!! We cannot lose that, be assured of your salvation! We have assurance, and that is such a joy! If we had to walk on eggshells with our salvation, then is that true redemtion?? By no means can we expect to earn our salvation by working for it!!!!! It is a free gift that we in no means earn! So, to say that you can lose something that you never earned in the first place is insane!!!! Please, figure it out!! It's simple! |
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