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1 | But can WE know this? | Hebrews | kalos | 1231 | ||
I get so many questions and comments about things I did NOT say and questions I did NOT ask. I don't recall saying that WE can say that someone else is lost forever? Determing whether another is saved is outside the scope and focus of my remarks about Heb. 6;4. "Harper went a step too far." In what way? How? In what area? All I quoted from the Harper study Bible is: that if salvation were to be lost, it would be impossible for that person to be born again again. Hebrews 6:4,6 (NKJV) "For it is impossible for those who . . . fally away, to renew them again to repentance." As far as I can tell the Harper is only restating, in different words, that which had already been stated in these verses in Hebrews 6. For the life of me I cannot see what fault you find with Harper's note. On the other hand, I can see where the "fall from grace and lose your salvation" people would be stumped when it's pointed out to them that the very passage they use to prove one can fall from grace also shows that getting saved again is impossible. Along with the belief in falling from grace and losing your salvation usually comes the belief that the fallen one can still be saved again. But that cannot happen, according to Heb. 6:4-6. If you say that I am attaching my own meaning to the passage, I honestly don't believe that I am. All I've done is quote it, then repeat it in my own words to emphasize the plain meaning of it. Thank you for a stimulating response, Charis. |
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2 | But can WE know this? | Hebrews | EveryHome | 1233 | ||
Arminianism vs. Calvinism has been around for a long time. We are still facing the same issues just using different "possibilities" and study Bible references. "Falling from grace and losing your salvation" are really not part of the Arminian position. Ours is a belief that apostasy is possible. It is not as easy to become apostate as many "fall from grace" thinkers say it is. Meaning... you don't just wake up one morning having lost your salvation. Apostasy is a process and the person who is on that path will know it. Apostasy is the abandonment or renunciation of Christianity and it is not by accident nor is it "losing" (as in unintentional)or "falling" as in whoops! It is the culmination of the refusal to repent for things which are obvious to the person approaching a final act of disobedience. | ||||||
3 | But can WE know this? | Hebrews | charis | 1257 | ||
An 'admitted' Arminist! Welcome, my friend, to the show that never ends! Though I profess no capital 'A' or 'C' (or 'X' or 'Y' or 'Z') I do agree with your about 'sudden' damnation, in the same way I do not believe that Satan can 'snatch' us away from God. Just to add an anecdote that is (somewhat) relevant: I went to a meeting a few years ago, and the preacher said that he 'cast out several demons from himself using a mirror just prior to the meeting.' Needless to say, I did not stick around for fellowship after the meeting! Very mobile demons! Blessings in Jesus' name! |
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4 | But can WE know this? | Hebrews | kalos | 1281 | ||
Very good answer! Very Good! If this is the "show that never ends," -- and it is -- then you, my friend, are the star of the show. Your prolific entries, your insight and your humor keep this show high in the Nielsen ratings. And how refreshing to receive an entry from an "admitted" anything, Arminianist or otherwise. | ||||||