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1 | What does predestinated means | Ephesians | Rom831 | 29004 | ||
You're looking at this from our point of view in linear time, not from God's point of view from eternity. It does not say that God chose the elect by name to be saved. It says those who are with Him are the chosen. Yes, our names are written there, because we believe, not out of a cosmic lottery. Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved" Notice, "saved" comes after "believed". If we had to be chosen first, we'd be chosen to be saved, so we believed. I'm sorry. Feel free to disagree. But the only way to reconcile all of scripture, is for us to have the choice. Otherwise spreading the gospel as Jesus commands is pointless, belife is irrellevant, Jesus' whole ministery of belife is wasted air, Jesus died for nothing, and God does NOT desire that none shall be lost but instead is an evil being who has condemned the majority of people to an eternity of suffering in a lake of fire by HIS will alone. Not to mention, if God chose me specifically for heaven and specifically chose someone else for hell, MAN what a boasting right!! "He chose me and not you and there's nothing you can do about it!! " It just doesn't work. As for your other post on foreknowledge, again I'm sorry, but instead of twisting His words, lets believe what He says. John 6:64 "But there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe. There, the word "fore knowledge" isn't used so you can't twist it. It says that Jesus knew who would not believe. Not who were not allowed to believe or not chosen so they couldn't believe. Bless...ArtS |
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2 | What does predestinated means | Ephesians | Hank | 29054 | ||
ArtS: In viewing your response to Kalos, I read "You're looking at this from our point of view...not from God's." Perhaps I'm just being a grumpy old man today and pressing a point unduly hard, but I'd be interesting in learning how Kalos or any other human being could look at the issue in question or any other issue from any other perspective than a human perspective. Can you shed any light on how this is possible? Can we, in fact, view anything on earth or in heaven from God's view? --Hank | ||||||
3 | What does predestinated means | Ephesians | Rom831 | 29324 | ||
Sure we can. We cannot fully understand Him or His ways, but we can surely see that they are not ours. And we can see that He is not bound by the things He has created, such as OUR view of linear time. Then we can look at how things would be without the constraints of such hindering things. Bless...ArtS |
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