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1 | What does predestinated means | Ephesians | Rom831 | 28950 | ||
This is a post I just gave to another question on this. Basiclly, God has already chosen who will be saved. But the question is, who are chosen and why? Revelation 17:14 says those "who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful." We are chosen not by name. God didn't sit down with a big list of names and check us off Santa-style as saved and unsaved. Those who are chosen, are those who are with Jesus. Meaning God didn't choose me specifically, He chose (predestined) those who would believe in His Son as a whole. 1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who reside as aliens, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, who are chosen 2 according to the foreknowledge of God the Father... See? chosen by God's foreknowledge. Not randomly, but by His foreknowledge of who would accept His Son. Remember, God knew our whole lives well before we ever existed. He knew then who would accept Jesus and who would not. To me, this is the only way to have the whole Bible fit without the old "What Jesus was really saying was..." trick. I believe if He was really wanting to say anything else, He'd have said it. Bless...ArtS |
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2 | What does predestinated means | Ephesians | kalos | 28976 | ||
*God chooses those who choose him.* Is that what the Bible really teaches? "Foreknowledge. Occasionally someone will suggest that God's election is based on His foreknowledge of certain events. This argument suggests that God simply looks into the future to see who will believe, and He chooses those whom He sees choosing Him. Notice that 1 Peter 1:2 says the elect are chosen "according to the foreknowledge of God the Father," and Romans 8:29 says, "whom He foreknew, He also predestined." And if divine foreknowledge simply means God's knowledge of what will happen in advance, then these arguments may appear to have some weight behind them. "But that is not the biblical meaning of "foreknowledge." When the Bible speaks of God's foreknowledge, it refers to God's establishment of a love relationship with that person. The word "know," in both the Old and New Testament, refers to much more than mere cognitive knowledge of a person. Such passages as Hosea 13:4-5; Amos 3:2 (KJV); and Romans 11:2 clearly indicate this. For example, 1 Peter 1:20 says Christ was "foreknown before the foundation of the world." Surely this means more than that God the Father looked into the future to behold Christ! It means He had an eternal, loving relationship with Him. The same is true of the elect, whom we are told God "foreknew" (Romans 8:29). That means He knew them--he loved them--before the foundation of the world." (...) "In summary, we can say that God has had a special love relationship with the elect from all eternity, and on the basis of that love relationship chosen them for salvation. The ultimate question of why God chose some for salvation and left others in their sinful state is one that we, with our finite knowledge, cannot answer. We do know that God's attributes always are in perfect harmony with each other, so that God's sovereignty will always operate in perfect harmony with His goodness, love, wisdom, and justice." (See: www.gty.org/IssuesandAnswers/archive/election.htm) |
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