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1 | Mark, am I missing something | Galatians | timberwolf3 | 165335 | ||
Kalos; My sister and I were discussing about the 4th commandment. Keeping the Sabbath Holy. The Jewish Sabbath is Saturday in the old Testament. Our Sabbath day is Sunday. I explained that we live under grace not the Law, Ro. 6:13-18, and Ro. 7:4-6, and other scriptures that I have not listed here. She denys that we live under grace and that the Law that God gave Moses is the only way to be saved. We or at least I keep try to keep every day holy as it says to do in 1 Peter 1:15-16. That dosn't mean that I don't sin or am worthy. It means that I am not going to hell for not keeping Saturday holy, thanks to God's grace. The other Laws that God has written for us is now in our minds and our hearts. I guess what I'm searching for is this. If the 10 Comandments are still the same then why are most of the population not keeping the 4th commandment? From what I grasp from the New Testament is because we live under grace not the Law. |
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2 | Mark, am I missing something | Galatians | Ocelot | 165339 | ||
What is grace? Grace is when I’ve been speeding in excess and the cop that pulls me over lets me go without a ticket. Do I deserve a ticket? Yes. Do the laws that pertain to giving me a ticket for speeding still exist? Yes. So after he lets me go, do a peel out and spray gravel on his car? Now I realize that that’s not a perfect analogy of God’s grace. But here’s my point. Does God’s grace blot out His Law? No. The Law is eternal. God's grace removes the PUNISHMENT of His law. Did Isaiah live under grace? Yes. All of his righteousness were as filthy rags. It was still Christ’s grace and sacrifice that saved him. And he looked forward with faith to that sacrifice. The Ten Commandments were not “just for the Jews”. Most Christian pastors would preach the Ten Commandments any day. The only time they claim not to be living under them is when it pertains to the Sabbath. So were nine of the ten for everyone and only one of them just for the Jews? Read Isaiah 56:6. Also, read my post 164905. Just some thoughts. Ocelot P.S. Sorry, I realize that your post was addressed to kalos. |
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3 | Mark, am I missing something | Galatians | mark d seyler | 165344 | ||
Hi Ocelot, Good definition of grace, and its surrounding circumstances. We are released from the penalty of breaking the law, although the law still expresses the will of the lawgiver. But I would add, unless otherwise stated. Ex 20:10 but the seventh day is a sabbath of the LORD your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. The commandment to observe the Sabbath was specifically given for the Jews to follow, as well as those who sojourned in their land. Other passages bear this out. Ex 31:13 "But as for you, speak to the sons of Israel, saying, 'You shall surely observe My sabbaths; for this is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. Ex 31:16 'So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.' I have seen similar statements regarding the sacrifices, burning of incense, and other aspects of the temple worship. Also, I think, of the feasts. Are similar types of statements made regarding the other nine commandments, that they are for Isael, or are they given in a general fashion throughout scripture, as they are in Exodus 20 (with the exception of the Sabbath)? Also, Paul wrote to the Colossians (chapter 2) that the Sabbath was a shadow, the body is Christ (ile. which casts the shadow), therefore, "let no one judge you regarding a sabbath", echoing what he wrote to the Romans: Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. Rom 14:5 One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. that the keeping or not of the Sabbath is a matter of personal conscience. Is there any other law of which these same types of statements are made? They are made regarding the dietary laws, and feasts, and new moons. And these are laws that the majority of Christians agree that they are not necessary to be kept, but are a matter of conscience. It seems to me that the Scripture specifically tells us that the Sabbath was to be followed as a picture of the Christ Who was to come. Heb 4:9 So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. Heb 4:10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. The true rest which God wants for us is that we rest in Jesus. We can cling to His shadow if it makes us feel better, but God wants us to go directly to Jesus. Love in Christ, Mark |
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