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1 | should females pastor | 1 Corinthians | "DOC2" | 178367 | ||
in relation to women ministering should we not be careful to take into account the fact that there is no direct command that a women should not minister and that the only scripture (that i know of) which say anything along that line comes from paul who states " but I suffer not a woman to teach" apparantly denoting that it was his personal preference quite possibly based on his jewish background and on the way women were treated at the time. | ||||||
2 | should females pastor | 1 Corinthians | BradK | 178370 | ||
Hello DOC2, This is an often-debated topic. The other half of the verse you quoted (1 Tim. 2:12) says, "...or to have authority over a man". This would seem to preclude a women from the role of Pastor. That does not mean that a woman cannot "minister"- as we're all called to do so- it just means not in a role of authority:-)To help frame the perspective, verse 13 gives the reason. "For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve." The Commentary Critical makes these notes on 1 Tim. 2:12-13: 12. usurp authority—“to lord it over the man” [Alford], literally, “to be an autocrat.” 13. For—reason of the precept; the original order of creation. Adam - first—before Eve, who was created for him (1 Cor. 11:8, 9). The Bible Knowledge Commentary offers this: 2:11-12. "In emphasizing godly conduct for women, Paul stressed, with Peter, “the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight” (1 Peter 3:4). The females in the congregation should receive instruction from the male leadership with quietness and full submission. They should not attempt to turn the tables by clamoring for the office of congregational teacher or by grasping for authority over men. Rather they should, literally, “be in quietness.” The word, hesychia (Gr.), translated “quietness” in 1 Timothy 2:11 and silent in verse 12, does not mean complete silence or no talking. It is clearly used elsewhere (Acts 22:2; 2 Thes. 3:12) to mean “settled down, undisturbed, not unruly.” A different word (sigao) means “to be silent, to say nothing” (cf. Luke 18:39; 1 Cor. 14:34). 2:13. Why is such a quiet and submissive spirit “of great worth in God’s sight”? (1 Peter 3:4) Because it manifests an understanding and acceptance of His design for the human race. As elsewhere (cf. 1 Cor. 11:8-10), Paul here based his view of male - female relationships in the church on the account of Creation recorded in Genesis 2. He made no reference whatever to the so-called “curse” of Genesis 3:16. Rather, the roles Paul spelled out here are a product of God’s fundamental design wherein Adam was formed first, then Eve (cf. Gen. 2:7-25). More is involved here than mere chronological priority. Paul saw the priority in time as indicative of the leadership given to the male, to which the woman, the “helper suitable for him” (Gen. 2:18), should respond." Speaking the Truth In Love, BradK |
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3 | should females pastor | 1 Corinthians | "DOC2" | 178731 | ||
whilst i can see what you are saying i would draw your attention to 2 points, 1. your quote from the critical commentary uses the word "usurp" meaning to "seize and hold without legal authority", now if it was seen by a congregation that a particular woman was obviously annointed by God to preach and teach then their decision to give her a ministerial post would not be and could not be percieved as "userping of authority". 2. that in genesis 2:18 God says that He will make a "help" for Adam (the word used literally meaning aid or one to give assistance please note that nowhere is there a hint of lordship.(by the way when God tells eve in gen. 3:16 that adam will rule over her the word there literally means have power or control of (not authority over)) |
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4 | should females pastor | 1 Corinthians | BradK | 178742 | ||
Hello Doc2, Thanks for your reply. However, I'm not exactly clear on the point you're making? The qualifications for Bishop/Deacon in the Body of Christ are defined in 1 Tim. 3 and Titus 1. All believers are "annointed" of God: "Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God," (2 Cor. 1:21) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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