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1 | Guidelines on rebuking | Matthew | Leslie N | 125841 | ||
thanks Theo, now concerning my work, well I thought any person would realise the part 'my work' that I was referring to was the topics, not the bible or the verses themselves, in respect of any mistakes made, I take the responsibility for them and also what I meant is that I don't mind if you copy it or whatever. A lot of bibles and such have a copyright on them and you have to be careful when reproducing it. Next time it might be best to ask for an explanation before you judge someone falsely. And regarding it being a jumbled mess, are you condemning that work because it doesnot meet your standards of editorship. In that case I apologise regarding my skills at editing. Also a pat on the back, well I can't really get one if no one knows who I am. And also are you the person I was helping (in regards to the question) if not then on what basis do you have a problem with the answer, since it was not in answer to your question, if the person who asked the question found the answer unhelpful that would be a different matter. Gal 5:25-26 | ||||||
2 | Guidelines on rebuking | Matthew | Theo-Minor | 125878 | ||
Look Leslie ... You cited 116 passages to substantiate what amounted to little more than a paragraph once you take all the references out. That was overkill. The note was barely intelligible with all the notations, and it took me several minutes to digest the simplicity of what you were trying to say because it was too hard to make a coherent sentence out what I consider little more than a mess. I looked up the passages you cited, and most of them had nothing to do with the topic at hand. Point of fact, most of them had nothing to do with what you were saying. You quoted scriptures that directly regard to the selecting of church elders, the admonishing of other Christians, the chastisement of other Christians, etc. The original question you were responding to was when to rebuke someone that is NOT a Christian, and the answer to that, when you are a relatively young Christian that doesn't have the knowledge to know the answer to that question, is never. Further, recognizing that the person asking was lacking knowledge, you shouldn't overload them. If I were a young Christian, that would have intimidated me. Then it would have confused me. God is not the author of confusion (I know that passage refers to something else, but the principle is appropriate). Now, consider what I said judgmental if you wish, but I considered it instruction. We will know a vine by its fruits. What I saw was an overkill of scripture, poorly quoted according to their contexts and applications, and this is indicative of someone that wants to impress other people. If your truest intention was to instruct with all thoroughness, then my mistake. I willingly own my error and apologize. If your intention was to impress with overkill, then my instruction was good and appropriate. Whichever the case may be, it was still overbearing, confusing, and potentially intimidating to a young Christian. Remember that less is more. We only need two or three witnesses to establish a matter. In this particular case, one set of scripture says virtually everything you said. See 1 Thess 5:12-26. In direct regard to "your work," all I saw was a bunch of quotations. When I compared them to one of my study bibles, the quotations were awful familiar in organization. I will not say you copied someone else's work, but I will say that it is suspicious to me. Take my words for what they are worth. My intentions are good. But I'm done with this conversation unless we have something nice to say to one another. I don't want strife, and I'm certain it's not wanted on this forum either. Theo-Minor |
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3 | Guidelines on rebuking | Matthew | Leslie N | 125921 | ||
Theo, in my particulars (under my name) I have included the statement 'that I have not got the spiritual gift of teaching' so accordingly I can't ascribe to God a work that I consider was not done by His help, in respect of errors in that work (God does not make mistakes). Christians should make this point clear, whether they have that particular gift. Jam 3:1-2 in the GNB so that is 1 reason I said 'My work'. Yes I accept your apology for saying that I plagarised, that basically means to steal, I wanted to exalt myself, I am prideful, I try to impress other people. The answer though to all these though is no, no, no, no. Basically what you have done is slander me based on your own perceptions. Mat 15:19-20 Mar 7:21-22 2Ti 3:1-3 Act_5:30-32 1Jo_3:23-24 Gal_5:16-26 Tit 3:2-3 Jam 4:11-12 1 Corinthians 5:11-12 and 1Co 6:9-10 And in respect of strife, I posted a list of verses I thought another person could use and I included no other statement than, this is my own work, and one of the reasons i stated this was not to give it authority, as comming from God. It was you who decided to start criticising another christian without even asking him for an explanation or a reason. Since you don't want strife why did you start it, then? And yes you can tell a tree by its fruits. |
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4 | Guidelines on rebuking | Matthew | Theo-Minor | 125925 | ||
I still don't think I was judgmental. I made a reasonable observation according to what I saw. I also explained myself thoroughly in the second note and made plenty of reasonable, logical statements that it "seems" you are going to ignore. To forgive is to give up your right to do hurt back to someone that has done hurt to you. You are not giving up that right, but throwing in a comment at the end of this most recent note in order to get the last word. That's not really forgiveness, so don't insult my intelligence. Have your last word. I'm done. Theo-Minor |
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5 | Guidelines on rebuking | Matthew | Hank | 125927 | ||
Tsk, tsk, children! Aren't you both, Theo-Minor and LeslieN, being childish? This sort of petty tit for tat is inappropriate on this Bible Forum. Please don't do it. --Hank | ||||||