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1 | Enoch and Elijah 'raptured'? | 2 Kin 2:3 | Makarios | 35046 | ||
Were Enoch and Elijah 'raptured' in the same sense as that which is spoken of in 1 Thess. 4:16-17? | ||||||
2 | Enoch and Elijah 'raptured'? | 2 Kin 2:3 | Robert Nicholson | 35075 | ||
Dear brother: In Hebrews 11:5 "By Faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death" Enoch is listed with the heros of faith. He did not die, so we cannot say he was resurrected like the old testament saints after the resurrection of Christ. He was translated which I believe is the same word used in 1 Cor. 15:51 "...we shall not all sleep (die), but we all shall be changed" This reference is referring to the same time as found in 1 Thess 4:15-17 When our risen Lord will come for those who are "in Christ". I think that it is significant in the matter which God took Enoch. Gen. 5:24 "Enoch walked with God : and he was not; for God took him. There was no disruption around him, simply he was taken. The writer of the Hebrews shows more light on the subject telling us that he did not die, but he was translated. In old testament types we notice also that Enoch was taken before God came down in judgement on the ungodly with the flood. Whereas, Noah was left on the earth and was delivered through the flood as a picture of Israel in a coming day who will be kept through the judgment of God during the Great Tribulaltion. Why is Elijah not mentioned as a hero of faith. After all, he was a prophet of God at a time of great Apostasy. Which would remind us of this world after the man of Sin is revealled. He came with great power and with fire. As he came so was he taken. Elijah as Enoch did not die, he was translated. "It came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that behold, a chariot of fire and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven" 2 Kings. 2:12 It is also significant that when the Lord Jesus was transfigured that Elijah and Moses appeared there with him. Luke 9:-28-36 and Matt. 17: 1-8 The transfiguration is a picture of Christ in all his glory when he comes to rule in righteousness. Dr. Scofield points out that Moses is representative of those who have passed into the kingdom through death. In contrast to Elijah representative of those who have entered the kingdom by translation at the coming of Christ. Dear brother, this is where I find myself somewhat puzzled. Could it be that Enoch and Elijah picture those who will be translated from two perspectives? Namely, Enoch went quietly into the presence of the Lord. Elijah was surrounded the the power of God which could point out the the great power and glory which we will share with Christ when he comes back in judgement on this old earth as seen in 2 Thess. 1:8-10 which associates his vengence with the time when "he shall come to be glorified in his saints..."V10 In our soon coming Lord Robert |
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3 | Enoch and Elijah 'raptured'? | 2 Kin 2:3 | Makarios | 35092 | ||
Greetings, Robert! Thank you for your response, my brother in Christ! I believe that Hebrews 11 does mention Elijah: in verse 32. Hebrews 11:32 states "..and the prophets,", of which time would "fail" the author of Hebrews to tell of their faith in the entirety.. :-) This citation of Dr. Scofield was truly excellent! "It is also significant that when the Lord Jesus was transfigured that Elijah and Moses appeared there with him. Luke 9:28-36 and Matt. 17:1-8 The transfiguration is a picture of Christ in all his glory when he comes to rule in righteousness. Dr. Scofield points out that Moses is representative of those who have passed into the kingdom through death. In contrast to Elijah representative of those who have entered the kingdom by translation at the coming of Christ." Perhaps Enoch was a representative of the Godly people (sons of God) of his time, since he was 'raptured' before the Flood, and was Noah's great grandfather. Either that, or Enoch still has a part to play in God's overall plan concerning planet Earth, as one of the two witnesses spoken of in Revelation. But, as you have stated, both Enoch and Elijah did not taste death like Moses had, and it is made so that even if we die (like Moses), or remain alive (like Enoch and Elijah), we will be glorified as saints with the Lord, like Moses and Elijah were in the Transfiguration. Excellent thoughts, my friend! Makarios |
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