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1 | THANKS EVEYONE BACKSLADING | Psalm | momma2 | 153236 | ||
Hi this is 4 DOC , SEEDLING thanks 4 the answer's on backsliding it help me alot, I repented after reading I was so down but not anymore and I thank God and thanks 2 everyone eles 4 answering this.THANKS AGAIN GOD BLESS EVERYONE. | ||||||
2 | THANKS EVEYONE BACKSLADING | Psalm | seedling | 153237 | ||
Momma2 I'm very excited that Doc, I and others could help you. This really encourages me. Whem I feel down and out, I read Psalms 121. That chapter gives a lot of comfort and encouragement. God Bless and keep the faith! Seedling |
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3 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | HopeinHim | 154934 | ||
When someone is in a backslidden condidtion, usually it's because we want to do what we want to do regardless of the outcome. God gives us all free will and the bible is pretty simple. If you obey ...blessings, if you disobey...curses. Getting into a good church is mandatory, we can't do this alone. If you have good Pastor's that is a big difference. But we all have to walk this walk and carry our cross alone since we will face God alone. It's our own free will and choices that we make. The word is something that we need to be reading since the word is God so the bottom line is...if you are in a backslidden condidtion you need more God and be aware of the choices before and make the right ones. God bless! |
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4 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | DocTrinsograce | 154952 | ||
Hi, Hope... On what Scriptures do you base this "back-slidden" condition? Are you speaking of believers? I may be mistaken, but I do not see the the Bible accommodating such a definition of a disciple of Christ. In Him, Doc |
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5 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | Wild Olive Shoot | 154964 | ||
Hi Doc, Would like your thoughts on, what I take as, the noticeable declension of the church in Ephesus (Revelation 2:4,5) compared to the so-called “backslidden” state. I’m really glad this subject came up. I’m currently studying 1 John and am having difficulties reconciling the fact that we do indeed sin, even with what the Holy Spirit does accomplish within us. From 1 John specifically, I come to an understanding that the Spirit of God works to the same result in all circumstances and that He can in no case produce un-holiness. Outside of this epistle you find reference to “quenching the Spirit” as in 1 Thessalonians 5:19. But even within the epistle I come to the conclusion that we receive a new nature at regeneration but keep remnants of the old. Could that, along with the rebuke given to the Church in Ephesus in Revelation, be indicative to the possibility of a backslidden condition within a Christian’s life? We are warned numerous times to beware of those who would lead us astray and arguably, it seems we can “forsake our first love” to a “degree” of falling away. Or is this a complete falling away from Christ? I get the sense, and I’m posting for the purpose of some sort of guidance here because I’m just really not sure, that there may be simply a temporary backslidden state to which we can repent of? Would really like to get everyone’s take on this. WOS |
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6 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | DocTrinsograce | 154969 | ||
Dear Brother WOS, I really love 1 John, although it isn't quite as structured as Paul's writings. However, I really believe that it is an epistle with a great deal to say to us today. You are kind to ask my comments. I'll do my best, as honestly as I can, with God's grace. For quite a while men have been teaching that there are three kinds of people in the world: the lost, the carnal Christian, and the committed Christian. However, I find this an alien teaching to Scripture. Certainly this is not the message of 1 John. Pausing for a moment regarding the "quenching" or "grieving" the Holy Spirit. We must be careful here, since there is much misunderstanding in this area. To imagine that we have the power to frustrate the purposes of God in any way is way off the mark. However, I think people get some kind of mental picture that the Holy Spirit is somehow handcuffed by our will. Nothing could be farther from the truth. God does require the approval of anyone. Nevertheless, there is a sense in which we can choose a path that is contrary to His will. When that happens, we stray into our own way, and we loose the benefit of His grace. Make no mistake, God is conforming us into the image of His Son. In ways that only He is able to do, He makes use of our straying for our ultimate good. Any time we deal with the truths of the Providence of God and the will of the regenerate, we end up with a lot of antinomies. Christ Himself told us that there would be some who honestly believed they were saved, but were not (Matthew 7:23). There are also those that receive the Word with joy, but have no root, but walk away from the faith (Luke 8:13). I believe these latter folks are spoken of in Hebrews 6, as well. Indeed, we are told that we will walk along side by side with unbelievers until the end (Matthew 13:30). The ultimate evidence of salvation is perseverance (James 1:12). Perhaps this helps us to understand those other passages that are so hard: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling" (Philippians 2:12) and "make your calling and election sure" (2 Peter 1:10). You see, only those who truly are willing to give up all things (Matthew 16:25, Luke 18:29, etc.). They even are willing to use violence to take the kingdom (Matthew 11:12). But they do so joyfully (Matthew 13:44)! How then can we know that we belong to the Lord? We persevere! (Here is another antinomy: He preserves us, yet we are to persevere!) We study the Scriptures, seeing where our lives line up with the clear descriptions of disciples of Christ. We grow increasingly dependent on the Lord, as we apply the means of grace in our lives. Always working out our salvation with fear and trembling, lest preaching to others -- for disciples are always seeking to make other disciples (Matthew 28:18-20) -- we ourselves be cast away (1 Corinthians 9:27). People don't like this message, however. They want to make salvation a broad and easy way. They don't want to sweat, let alone bleed. They want to live their lives as they choose, and yet be comforted. However, dealing with a Holy God is never easy or comforting. (Another antinomy that, since it is by His work that we are saved! And He seals us with the Comforter!) Well, I haven't gotten much into 1 John, have I? :-) Sorry about that, but its been a long week and I'm pretty tuckered out. I will answer this. If you have properly followed what I am saying, you will see that the answer is yes: there is a backslidden state from which we must repent. Repentance is, indeed, the way of the believer's life! Praise be to our Father, though, that His mercies are renewed morning by morning! Would you want me to proceed with 1 John tomorrow, or are you now sorry you asked? :-) In Him, Doc |
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7 | Flesh or Spirit | Psalm | Wild Olive Shoot | 154984 | ||
Doc, I hope you have come to realize how much appreciate your words. If I was ever sorry for asking for your input it would only be because you have enlightened me on a subject in which I wasn’t really seeking to hear an honest answer. Thank you for the response. The inquiry I was curious of stemmed from 1. My own debate in trying to reconcile the work of Spirit with our “old” sinful nature. 2. Your response to HopeinHim which gave me the impression that a backslidden state was some sort of misconception. After reading, so far, the three responses, from you, Hank and Jlhetrick, I came to the realization that in essence, when we sin, we “back-slide” but we should not be setting up camp, so to speak, in that state or condition and that by the work of the Spirit we won’t be. Our call is to realize our sin and repent of it before that becomes a so-called permanent or lasting condition. The Holy Spirit enables us to accomplish that. I take that a backslidden condition is not one indicative of a Christian because we are to recognize it and take the appropriate actions to remove ourselves from it. But nonetheless, it seems to be an unavoidable and at times a very testing part of a Christian’s walk with Christ, or rather a departure or falling away from Christ, that can only be resolved through Him. So I think I now agree (although I couldn’t honestly disagree since I was still questioning it within myself) with the statement you gave to HopeinHim which was “I may be mistaken, but I do not see the the Bible accommodating such a definition of a disciple of Christ.” Unless of course, I am just way off base on this one, I feel the question I had has been thoroughly answered. Doc, I thank you for your input, I’ve come to value it, no matter “ my opinion or feeling”, on any given subject. And as always, feel free to proceed with anything you feel appropriate to convey. I’m listening and learning and deciphering the best I can and very much appreciate all that you and many others here on the forum have to share. Thank you brother. WOS |
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