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1 | please tell me where in the bible | Malachi | Kelkat | 37899 | ||
Numbers 18:24, 26, 28 Deut 12: 6, 11, 17 14: 22, 23, 28 26: 12 2 Chron 31: 5, 6, 12 Neh 10: 37-38 12: 44 13: 5, 12 Amos 4:4 Mal 3: 8, 10 Hope that gets you started. |
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2 | what are storehouse?can you divide tithe | Malachi | Kelkat | 37717 | ||
I was wondering this myself, so I used a concordance to look up the word tithe in scripture. It is my understanding that the tithe (or 10 percent) is to go to the priests (pastors, ministers...in most cases this is the church). The poor, the widows and orphans, etc... are to be cared for with alms or offerings. Always check out scripture for yourself, though. :) Kelkat |
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3 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | Kelkat | 18612 | ||
:) I knew what you were thinking, but I had to say that. I said "Christmas" was on Dec. 25th, and it is. Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. I did not say it WAS His birthday. Just a messin with ya. :) Kelkat PS I agree that His birthday was probably not in December. |
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4 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | Kelkat | 18496 | ||
Yes, those are the three I was referring to. But if we are only talking about their belief in the power of words, will that belief keep anyone out of heaven? What I have learned over the last (mainly) two years is that my opinions, my thoughts, my beliefs are not going to change anyone else's. Someone gave me the best advice I have ever received "if it's not one of the essential elements of salvation, then let God take care of it." I don't disagree that you, and many others, feel that "word of faith" teachers and believers have it wrong. I also don't disagree that many of them believe that there is power in words. I know, or figure, that you can prove your point scripturally. I know that they prove their point scripturally. When I asked you about what you didn't agree with, I meant in the essential issues. Otherwise, I know that you are firmly grounded in your ideas, and I can't say anything to prove you wrong, or to make you see things differently. So there is not reason to go on. If you do have concerns about the essentials, these I want to know. I have never heard any of them teach anything that goes against the "basics" but I also have not heard it all. That's what I am interested in talking about. We have different understandings of different scriptures, but I will concede that I am looking through a dark glass right now. I know that I don't have it all right. Kelkat |
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5 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | Kelkat | 18492 | ||
Christmas is on December 25th. Kelkat |
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6 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | Kelkat | 18273 | ||
What doctrine do any of them teach that is not founded on scripture? (one at a time, please) Kelkat |
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7 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18272 | ||
In a "nutshell" :) I don't defend anyone's position, especially when I don't have the details surrounding that position. We could agrue all day over the details of healing, prosperity, and blessings. Why can't we just agree to disagree here? You have to admit, it's not going to keep either of us out of heaven, no matter who turns out to be right. :) Kelkat |
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8 | An end to the "string"? | Not Specified | Kelkat | 18230 | ||
Wait a minute... I have never said that God will meet the desires of MY FLESH. And I agree, that is not what God intended. What I get is that God desires for us to live our lives daily in His will, following His rules, His steps, and His desires. When we are in His will, then He is our provision. And He provides according to His abilities. Does that mean we should all live in big homes and drive fancy cars? Not if the car or house or clothes become the focus. If you can't feel free to give it away, then it possesses you. You have become dependent. That is not God'd plan. Maybe that is where some of us differ in this "prosperity" teaching. I don't get that God desires ME to be wealthy. I have never made that statement, nor have I heard it made (in context). That's why I was saying that all this is a minor issue. Here's my theory. We, as christians, are so busy fighting over the minor issues (women preachers, baptizing, communion, healing, gifts, etc.) that we miss the unsaved or just scare them off. If we could all agree to agree on the main issues at hand (Jesus Christ came to earth as a man, was crucified, died, and buried. Three days later He rose from the dead and is seated at the right hand of God. He is my Savior and Lord.) and let God work out the rest, I think peace would be a lot easier to reach. I try to find what I CAN agree on, and I let the Holy Spirit do the convicting. I think everyone is going to be a bit suprised when we get to heaven and find out that not one of us had it 100 percent right. That is all I was trying to get at. If they aren't contridicting the essentials, let it go. I promise that God will take care of it. And no matter how hard YOU talk, your words cannot convince anyone or save anyone. You have to trust God. Thanks for everyone's imput. Kelkat |
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9 | An end to the "string"? | Bible general Archive 1 | Kelkat | 18260 | ||
Wait a minute... I have never said that God will meet the desires of MY FLESH. And I agree, that is not what God intended. What I get is that God desires for us to live our lives daily in His will, following His rules, His steps, and His desires. When we are in His will, then He is our provision. And He provides according to His abilities. Does that mean we should all live in big homes and drive fancy cars? Not if the car or house or clothes become the focus. If you can't feel free to give it away, then it possesses you. You have become dependent. That is not God'd plan. Maybe that is where some of us differ in this "prosperity" teaching. I don't get that God desires ME to be wealthy. I have never made that statement, nor have I heard it made (in context). That's why I was saying that all this is a minor issue. Here's my theory. We, as christians, are so busy fighting over the minor issues (women preachers, baptizing, communion, healing, gifts, etc.) that we miss the unsaved or just scare them off. If we could all agree to agree on the main issues at hand (Jesus Christ came to earth as a man, was crucified, died, and buried. Three days later He rose from the dead and is seated at the right hand of God. He is my Savior and Lord.) and let God work out the rest, I think peace would be a lot easier to reach. I try to find what I CAN agree on, and I let the Holy Spirit do the convicting. I think everyone is going to be a bit suprised when we get to heaven and find out that not one of us had it 100 percent right. That is all I was trying to get at. If they aren't contridicting the essentials, let it go. I promise that God will take care of it. And no matter how hard YOU talk, your words cannot convince anyone or save anyone. You have to trust God. Thanks for everyone's imput. Kelkat |
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10 | Who determines what is "minor"? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18229 | ||
Amen to that. Kelkat |
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11 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18228 | ||
Yes, we agree. But we still things a bit different. I don't think God desires ME to be wealthy. I do think He is wealthy, and desires to bless me so that I can bless others. Here's my best example: I know a couple who God had burden their hearts to adopt sibling groups. The do not have "grand" careers, and the woman even stays home. God provides for them daily, and is providing the home and transportation they will need to get that many children around. But they do not view the house or cars or money as theirs. They consider themselves stewards, and try to prayerfully do with everything. That is what I think the scripture is talking about when it talks about prosperity. Being able to meet all needs, whatever those needs are, of those that God directs us to. It has to be a God thing. If "I" gets into, then prIde can't be far behind, and we all know where pride leads. :) Kelkat |
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12 | Who determines what is "minor"? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18076 | ||
so if its minor, why let it divide? Kelkat |
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13 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18075 | ||
Believe me, I know that any one can be wrong...especially those in authority. I don't think it is wrong for you to question anyone, if God leads you to it. The bible speaks often of us watching our words. I try not to say anything. Personally, I find that anytime "I" gets involved, I get in trouble. :) Kelkat |
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14 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18074 | ||
Psalm 35:27 3John2 Deuteronomy 28:12 Deuteronomy 8:18 Philippians 4:19 Psalm 84:11-12 Malachi 3:10 2 Corinthians 9:8 |
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15 | Who determines what is "minor"? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 18000 | ||
Agreed. Now, what makes believing that God wants me to be healthy and prosperous a "false" doctrine, and not minor? Kelkat |
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16 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17998 | ||
But the problem with that theory is that they are my teachers. I didn't believe and then start listening. I was listening when I began believing. What I have learned has been lead through them. I respect your right not to listen to them. But, I will not try to find something wrong with others. I have seen that do just as much damage. And the enemy is doing enough damage without us tearing each other up. Kelkat |
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17 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17997 | ||
Okay, yes I believe God has to do everything that He said He would do. Not because I believe, but because He is who He is. He can not lie. So if He said it would, it will be. Why is that wrong? As for the whole CRI thing. I went surfing to find out who or what they were. That is when I found the statement from the founder's wife who said her husband had not hand picked anyone. It is also when I found the web site founded by his children. Kelkat |
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18 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17978 | ||
That's what I mean, they have taken the teachings out of context. I have heard the same teachings, but I understand that it comes down to a heart issue. God does things in my life because He loves me, not because I bribe Him. I can understand why Creflo Dollar and Kenneth Copeland can upset some people. I can see how some people want the easy way out ( if that makes sense) and are upset when it doesn't go their way. But everything I have learned so far is that there is no easy way. They have taught me to search the scripture for God's desire for my life. It's not about God doing FOR me, it's about God doing through me. I can't be the focus, or God is out of the picture. It's easier to say "I am doing this because of what you did" than it is to take responsibility for your own actions. That's all I'm saying. It's a context thing. If that makes sense. Kelkat |
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19 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17976 | ||
Sorry, didn't mean to seem like I was jumping. I don't think that they "teach" that God is puny or was tricked. Just the opposite, I think they teach that He is all powerful, and all knowing. Just the way I see it. :) right back at ya. Kelkat |
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20 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | Kelkat | 17970 | ||
Look, I don't know what you are so upset about. You say you disagree with me, but on what? You want me to site specifics, but on what? Exactly what is it you don't agree with? | ||||||
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