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421 | Slain or knocked down | Eph 4:14 | stjones | 104020 | ||
C'mon, Hank; don't dance around it. What do you really think? Huckleberry Finn v. Benny Hinn! Thanks for a bedtime chuckle - and the wisdom within the humor. And to think I told someone in another thread that you can be grouchy sometimes. Can you ever forgive me? LOL - Indy |
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422 | Slain or knocked down | Eph 4:14 | stjones | 104052 | ||
Yeah; old will do that. I prefer to think of myself as a curmudgeon. - Indy |
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423 | Is reverence feasible? Always? | Eph 5:33 | stjones | 66398 | ||
Rabbi Mark; At the risk of "piling on" here, I have to join Hank in his reproof. Respect on this forum is earned, not by suddenly jumping in and instructing us, but by establishing a reputation for thoughtful and worthwhile comments. Arrogance and condescension establish a different sort of reputation, one you are well on your way toward creating. Emmaus and Mommapbs, though I sometimes disagree with them, have shown themselves to be both worthy of attention and respectful of other members. You would do well to suspend your New Age heresy hunting and try to understand why they have been around a while and are defended by other members. And please don't compliment my on my maturity. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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424 | Circus Churchianity vs.Spirt-led worship | Philippians | stjones | 54389 | ||
Hi, nuge; Maybe you're just attending the wrong churches. We have talented musicians within our church but they are not entertainers. Applause is seldom heard at our church (mostly when the youngest children's choir sings or when someone announces their 50th anniversary). Our choir director has pounded it into our heads that we are not performing; we are singing to God and trying to direct the congregation's attention toward Him as well. The congregation seldom has the chance to be a passive audience; we typically have a responsive reading for our call to worship; we have unison prayer and silent prayer; we usually sing three hymns; we have a time for sharing joys and concerns before the last prayer and last hymn. We preach the Bible, Jesus, and sin. Our weekly youth group (30-60 kids most nights) is not very trendy; it's built around Bible study and singing. We host five very intense (and truly life-changing) spiritual retreats every year. We support missionaries in Kenya, Japan, Djibouti, and Russia and we're on the short list when the United Way has a person with a need they can't meet. Am I bragging? Perhaps, but only as an encouragement. God is very active, sometimes in churches that are in the most liberal denominations. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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425 | Phil 3:2/ Legalism | Phil 3:2 | stjones | 54460 | ||
Hi, Bub; I'm glad you finally admitted that you are not a Christian; that makes things much clearer. As for an allergy to Hebrews, I have none. It is not I who is running afoul of the warnings in chapters 6 and 10. Could you provide straight answers to three simple questions? (1) Do you live a life of perfect adherene to the Law? (2) If not, where do you sacrifice your animals to atone for your sins? (3) If you don't sacrifice as prescribed by the Torah, how do plan to escape the penalty for your sins? '"King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do." Then Agrippa said to Paul, "Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?" Paul replied, "Short time or long--I pray God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains."' (Acts 26:27-29) I'm sure we on the forum pray the same for you. Of course, your disdain for both Christ and the Body of Christ may be a stumbling block for you. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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426 | Churches | Phil 3:3 | stjones | 69143 | ||
Hi, Ray; Just FYI, I don't think any Presbyterian denomination santions ordination of practicing homosexuals for any office - Deacon, Elder, or Minister. The Presbyterian Church (USA) has a problem with a few defiant churches and presbyteries who have chosen to ignore ordination standards. The PC(USA) specifically requires either fidelity in heterosexual marriage or chastity in singleness. This has been affirmed by the General Assembly several times. The liberals don't like it, but that's their problem - one among many. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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427 | Churches | Phil 3:3 | stjones | 69185 | ||
Hi, Hank; Synods are still around in the PC(USA) though I'm not clear on their function. They seem to serve as a middle organizational layer between the 170 or so presbyteries and the national denomination. I'm due to be elected an Elder next Sunday so I'm sure I'll find out more during my training prior to ordination. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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428 | Churches | Phil 3:3 | stjones | 69218 | ||
Hi, Hank; Thanks for your good wishes. I'm afraid I may have sounded prideful or overly confident of my election. I should have said that I'm on a slate of candidates proposed by the nominating commitee. While nominations are accepted from the floor, I've never seen one offered. In my experience, the slate has always been elected unanimously. I guess that reflects either apathy or general agreement on the committee's work. I hope it's the latter. ;-) Indy |
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429 | Churches | Phil 3:3 | stjones | 69239 | ||
Hi, retxar; Thanks for the note of encouragement. When asked if I would serve, I agreed immediately because I was confident that the nominating committee was composed of godly people who had discerned God's will. I'm looking forward to serving him in a new capacity. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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430 | Elaboration- Phil 4:8 | Phil 4:8 | stjones | 43453 | ||
The New Living Translation: And now, dear brothers and sisters, let me say one more thing as I close this letter. Fix your thoughts on what is true and honorable and right. Think about things that are pure and lovely and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise. Worldwide [simplified] English translation: Here, my brothers, are some things I want you to think about. Think about things that are true, honest, right, clean and pure, things that are lovely, and things that are good to talk about. If they are good, and if they bring praise to God, think about these things. Hope this helps. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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431 | Present tense | Col 2:17 | stjones | 28389 | ||
Hi, drconklin; Mightn't it be true that Paul used the present tense because dietary laws, holy days and Sabbaths were a present reality and still observed by the Jews and promoted by the Judaizers? Those promoting adherence to the Law would not know or acknowledge that such requirements had been crucified with Christ. For them, not understanding that the Law was a mere shadow (i.e. Hebrews 5, 8-9), the rules would still be in effect and they would criticize Jesus' followers for not obeying them. Just my 2 percent of a dollar. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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432 | Present tense | Col 2:17 | stjones | 28417 | ||
Thanks, Nolan; Nice to know I'm back on track. ;-) Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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433 | Present tense | Col 2:17 | stjones | 28490 | ||
Hi, dr; Thanks for the reply. Given your take on v. 16, what you say makes sense. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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434 | Drawing the line | Col 2:21 | stjones | 34792 | ||
Hi, Tim; It's called legalism and the comparison with the Pharisees is valid. I once heard a radio Bible teacher (name of Malcolm Smith maybe?) discuss this at a time when I was a new Christian and really obsessing over what was expected of me. He said that he had grown up in an environment similar to the one you described. He found no joy and no encouragement in his faith only rules. Then he read Jeremiah 31:31-34: '"The time is coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their forefathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them," declares the LORD. "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest," declares the LORD. "For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more."' He went on to say that he realized that it was his realtionship with God, not adherence to rules, that mattered. He concluded by saying you can put all the religions in the world into a barrel labled "Try and Do"; you can put Christianity all by itself into another barrel labled "Trust and Done". I nearly drove off the road such was my relief an joy. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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435 | It isn't right to eat pig is it? | 1 Tim 4:4 | stjones | 103799 | ||
I know; replying to oneself is bad form. I should have read Makarios' addedum - better yet, I should have looked up the passage and found the error myself. That's what I get for trying to knock out a quick reply. Oh, well; I too meant the passage in Mark. Or wherever it is. ;-) Indy |
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436 | It isn't right to eat pig is it? | 1 Tim 4:4 | stjones | 103817 | ||
Greetings, wordoer; In Mark 7:18-19, Jesus specifically mentioned eating, not hand-washing. And he specifically said "all" foods, not ceremonially clean foods. He said these things twice (earlier in v. 14-15). Jesus drove home his point in v. 20-23: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.'" Given Jesus' own explanation, it is clear that he talked about food - not hand-washing - because that's what he meant. Your reference to 1 Tim 4 was very helpful. Writing about false teachers, Paul said "They ... order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer." (v. 3-5) Note the unqualified words "everything" and "nothing." The key is not what goes into the consumer's stomach but what was in his heart to begin with. This helps to put your objection to Makarios' use of 1 Cor 10:25-26 in context. Earlier (v. 18-21), Paul wrote about participating in both pagan feasts and the Lord's Table. His objection was not to the food but to the context: "the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons." (v. 21) Paul then expands on this idea by first stating our freedom in Christ: "'Everything is permissible' - but not everything is beneficial. 'Everything is permissible' - but not everything is constructive. Nobody should seek his own good, but the good of others." (v. 23-24) It is in this context that he writes in verses 25-26 that there is no prohibition against specific foods. The food isn't the problem; the consumer's intent is the problem. In the next section, Paul returns to the subject of meat sacrificed to idols: "If some unbeliever invites you to a meal and you want to go, eat whatever is put before you without raising questions of conscience. But if anyone says to you, 'This has been offered in sacrifice,' then do not eat it, both for the sake of the man who told you and for conscience' sake - the other man's conscience, I mean, not yours...." (v. 27-29) Given what Paul wrote in 1 Tim 4:3-5, it is clear that it is the intent, not the species, that matters. The sacrificed meat is to be avoided because to eat it is would be to participate in the unbeliever's intent, that is "to be participants with demons". This may do no harm to the believer: "If I take part in the meal with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of something I thank God for?" (v. 30) But (closing the loop with v. 24) eating the meat and participating in the unbeliever's intent would work against "the good of others"; that is, it would encourage the other's unbelief and set a bad example for other believers. Add to this Peter's vision in Acts 10, and the message is very clear. Eating pork (or rattlesnake, or shrimp) can't make a believer unclean because there are no unclean foods. Jesus, Paul, and God himself speaking to Peter in his vision said so. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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437 | It isn't right to eat pig is it? | 1 Tim 4:4 | stjones | 104262 | ||
Thanks, Makarios; I appreciate your taking the time to say so. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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438 | It isn't right to eat pig is it? | 1 Tim 4:4 | stjones | 104395 | ||
Thanks, Makarios; I always appreciate encouragement from one of the forum's stalwarts. - Indy |
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439 | It isn't right to eat pig is it? | 1 Tim 4:4 | stjones | 104398 | ||
Hi, wordoer; I'd be willing to discuss this further but I'm afraid I've shot my bolt. I've explained why I believe all the passages cited (in Mark 7, 1 Timothy 4, 1 Corinthians 10 and Acts 10), taken as a whole, convey the same message: ": Jesus declared all foods 'clean.'" (Mark 7:19) I know I'm repeating myself, but Jesus stated unequivocally: "Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him." (Mark 7:15) What effect does eating a pork chop have one me? But to address your questions: 1) "Where does the Word of God teach 'unclean animals' are for 'food'?" a) Assuming that "food" is what I eat, the above passages make it clear an unclean animal can be eaten. b) Acts 10:9-16 includes examples of "unclean" animals that Peter is told to eat (make them "food"), together with this admonition: "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean." (Acts 10:15) 2) "What leads you to believe there are no unclean animals?" See 1b above. There may be a sense in which an animal is still unclean but can nonetheless be eaten (because all can be eaten), but I don't think it would be relevant to a discussion that started with a question about eating pork. As I've explained, I can find nothing that prohibits a Christian from eating pork, even if swine are still unclean under the Law of Moses. Peace and grace, Steve aka Indiana Jones |
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440 | It isn't right to eat pig is it? | 1 Tim 4:4 | stjones | 104399 | ||
Hi, Makarios; Don't get too puffed up; I only meant to thank you once. ;-) ;-) ;-) But thanks again. - Indy |
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