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381 | homosexual brain wired that way at birth | 1 Cor 6:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205730 | ||
In the eyes of God it does not matter what we humans say. He said it is sin, it is sin. We can claim anything we want but it does not change the way God views it! His word is the measure of truth. Not our understanding. Perhaps a study on the sinful nature of mankind would help you understand why gays would cling to the lie that since is spreading about how they were born. Here's a start. 1 Corinthians 2:14 (NASB) But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. Romans 8:5-8 (NASB) 8:5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 8:6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 8:7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8:8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Steve |
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382 | homosexual brain wired that way at birth | 1 Cor 6:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 205793 | ||
Greetings Q, Have you reconciled what you will do? Steve |
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383 | Men having long hair a disgrace? | 1 Cor 11:7 | humbledbyhisgrace | 208626 | ||
Imm, You say "The question then arises, why then was it not a shame for Samson, and Samuel to never, in there lives be allowed to cut their hair? Although Samson's was cut once. Seems like long hair to a man is either a shame or it isn't, vow or no vow." Have you read the passage of scripture that teaches us about the Nazirite vow? See Numbers 6:1-21. Specifically verses 1-5 should answer your question. Pay very close attention to verse 1 and you will see why there is no shame. Considering who set the requirements of the vow it should prove no need for the question to arise at all. Steve |
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384 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 211110 | ||
Greetings Doc! My duties to study and ministry has kept me busy of late so I'm not spending much time on line. Sort of hit and miss lately. But I peeked in on this thread today to see what was up. Here's a good start on Grudem's position... http://www.challies.com/archives/interviews/continuationism.php I've also listen to him regarding some of the gifts as is relevant to this discussion on Piper's web site. http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/ConferenceMessages/ByConference/19/ There are several audio clips on this page. It comes from the 1991 Pastors Conference (Spiritual Gifts and the Sovereignty of God). Steve |
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385 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212028 | ||
Nevvvvine, In this passage it is those (with the spiritual gifts) that are given to the Church. In other words it is the gifted people here that are given to the Church. Also, consider the work of the apostles and prophets. Their work still lives on today in the Church. The intent of their ministry has the same value and edification on the Church today. Your rendering of the passage assumes that because the Church has not attained to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ that there is need for more apostles and prophets. The ministries of apostles and prophets of old are still applicable to the Church today. So no, this passage does not teach that there is need for more because the Church has not reached the full measure of Christ. Hope this helps! Steve |
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386 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212031 | ||
I'm not sure we see this the same but perhaps I misunderstand you. Let me ask this question of you to see if it clears things up for me. Do you believe this passage is saying that there is a need for more/new apostles and prophets in the church other then what we know of in Scripture? (i.e. there are apostles and prophets in the Church today)? Steve |
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387 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212040 | ||
Cheri will you answer this same question I ask Nevvvine? Do you believe this passage is saying that there is a need for more/new apostles and prophets in the church other then what we know of in Scripture? (i.e. is there apostles and prophets in the Church today or is it the ministry of the prophets and apostles of old that are applicable in the Church today)? Steve |
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388 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212044 | ||
Hi Cheri, I don't argue for or against certain gifts at this point. My understanding has changed because of arguments given which go beyond scripture to validate the teachings. My position is, I'm not sure :-) So I continue to look at the scriptures and the arguments laid out by mankind for their teachings to see if they line up with scripture. For me, once we began to leave the doctrine of sola Scriptura I lose trust in the teaching. You said "There are many circumstances today that don't seem to be addressed in the Bible as fully (or at all) and they need to be." Humm... so Cheri or Steve or Joe etc... has the ability and knowledge and authority to determine what needs to be in the word of God? If this is your reasoning Cheri then it has no scriptural proof or foundation to establish the proper understanding of the passage in question nor activity of the gifts in the church today. Can you see that? There is nothing that needs to be explained today that God did not explain in His word. Sorry but that is assuming mankind knows what needs to be or should have been explained or that there is something that is needed that God didn't provide to us. Our questions and/or inability to understand is not the determining factor of what is or is not in the word of God. We have the RC Church, JW's, Mormons, etc... and even the straw man arguments from mainstream protestant churches that find themselves in error today because they go outside of God's word and/or think that God's word is not sufficient as He deemed it so. These are the results of man deciding what is or should be the truth and look how far off the mark they get. What do the Scriptures say? That should be our question and when Scripture no longer speaks on the matter then surely we began teaching the precepts of men. Just my opinion :-) Steve |
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389 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212050 | ||
You say something key in your question asking me do I have a definitive verse of scripture that does say these ministries will end upon the death of the Apostles! The key is, ministries! In fact, I do not think these "ministries" have ceased. That is much different then to say that there are Apostles or Prophets today. I believe the passage in Ephesians does not teach anything about apostles or prophets being given to the Church throughout the church age. I do believe that the ministries of apostles and prophets that were given to the Church live on which does indeed continue to this day to build up the Church. But the foundation was laid (Ephesians 2:20) and the faith once for all handed down (Jude 1:3). Your position seems to hang on the view that one must be living today as a prophet or apostle for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. Not so, for the fruit of their labor lives on to this day! It did not end with their death! Your argument for point 2 is irrelevant. We are not discussing any teaching of the RC church. By the way, the RC church also believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Shall we reject biblical teaching that testifies to this truth just because the RC church holds to it also? I would think not :-) So, that brings us back to what the scripture says. We need to be diligent to reason from what scripture says not from something outside of the scripture to draw meaning of the scripture. Scripture teaches what it teaches and is not dependant on anything else to validate it. Steve |
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390 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212055 | ||
And I will continue to urge you to come back to the Scripture and seek His truth from there! We are not discussing the doctrine of the Apostolic Age. We are discussing God's word and seeking the truth found in it based on what He has said not what we perceive to be true based on what someone else says and/or who said something first. Do you seriously discern His truth this way? Nevvvine, no kidding, who cares what the RC church says or does. They nor any other denomination is our standard of truth. Scripture alone is the authority so let us reason from the scripture. Steve |
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391 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212063 | ||
Greetings Sister! Sorry about that! It is in reference to the Roman Catholic Church. Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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392 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212105 | ||
Greetings Cheri, Scripture teaches by specifics and by principles. The specifics do not contradict the principles nor do the principles contradict the specifics. In other words, there are no loop holes nor work a rounds :-) You understand what I'm saying here right? Some times I'm not so good at articulating my thoughts?!?!?! Examples would be... YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF (Mark 12:31). This is a principle. It covers all relationships. Matthew 18:15-17 would be an example of a specific teaching. It clearly explains in detail how we are to deal with a brother that sins. So when we face these questions that others and even we ourselves come up with some times we need to keep in mind (in my opinion) that Scripture does in fact contain in it all that the sovereign God willed that mankind should receive. In your scenario it appears to me that you believe the scriptures to teach that Jill2 is biblically bound to this marriage. So, for now let's assume you are correct in your understanding of the scriptures regarding the marriage as you have applied it to this scenario. If you believe that scripture teaches that because there has been no sexual immorality by either Jill1 or Jill2 and there can be no approved biblical divorce then to remain true to scripture and the command of God your answer is simple. Jill1 and Jill2 are to remain married. It is not a matter of our opinions whether we believe this is fair or unfair to either. What does matter is what God has commanded. To remain obedient to God, Jill1 and Jill2 would have to stay married. Why would there be any doubt or question on the matter? Do we really believe that we have freedom to disobey God because His ways do not fit with our desires? Sister that is who we were before we knew Him (Romans 8:7, Ephesians 2:1-3). Cheri, I realize some of the things others have had to face are beyond our ability to even think of having to go through ourselves. Praise God for His mercy! But sister isn't it true that if God's command in a situation like this would mean that Jill1 and Jill2 were required to remain in the marriage then despite anything else this is indeed what they must do if they are to be obedient to Him? Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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393 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212107 | ||
Greetings Sister! Personally, I'm in agreement that there are no new prophets or apostles in the Church today. The argument I was putting forth in post 212050 was my explanation of that :-) In an effort to understand the discussion of the gifts I have found many argue as newvvvine does from Ephesians 4 mainly standing on Ephesians 4:13. What I was trying to point out to him is that the fruits of the ministry of the gifted men given to the Church live on to this day still edifying the Church. The results of their ministry in the Church did not die with them. Proof of that is the written word :-) I was not saying that there were any ordain apostles to carry on. Does that help explain what I was saying? Or am I confused on what you were saying? :-) Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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394 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | humbledbyhisgrace | 212134 | ||
Ah sister how wonderful is the good news!!! :-) I love the post! So many wonderful truths you have pointed out. And it never gets old nor do we ever grow tired of hearing it. As far as my mind has been able to reach I have yet to find an end to how blessed we are to know such a wonderful and mighty God! You should read your post to your loved ones at Christmas just to draw there attention to the wonder and glory of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ! Merry Christmas to you Val and your loved ones! Your brother in Christ, Steve |
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395 | Gos Can Speak! | 1 Cor 12:3 | humbledbyhisgrace | 219298 | ||
Peter, Please do not do what I think you are about to do. If you are going to try and push that speaking in tongues is the meaning of what Paul is teaching in 1 Corinthians 12:3 your never going to sale that here. That would be a stretch completely ignoring the context and the written word. True enough one must be in the Spirit, have the Holy Spirit of God dwelling within for him/her to speak in tongues. But the same is true for one to perform any and all of the spiritual gifts. Before you attempt to push this, if that is indeed what you are about to do, then please answer this question for us. Paul says in 1 Corinthians 12:3b "and no one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit." Are you going to also tell us that if someone is unable to say Jesus is Lord in tongues that they are NOT in the Spirit? If I am off base on my assumption of what you are about to push regarding this subject please forgive me. I apologize in advance and will do so again if I am in error about what I see coming. Steve |
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396 | If we have any knowledge | 1 Cor 12:7 | humbledbyhisgrace | 181919 | ||
"If we have any knowledge of the truth, or any power to make it known, we must give all the glory of God. The greater the gifts are, the more the possessor is exposed to temptations, and the larger is the measure of grace needed to keep him humble and spiritual; and he will meet with more painful experiences and humbling dispensations. We have little cause to glory in any gifts bestowed on us, or to despise those who have them not".—Matthew Henry | ||||||
397 | If we have any knowledge | 1 Cor 12:7 | humbledbyhisgrace | 181937 | ||
Greetings Azure! Thank you for the kind words and blessings and I too wish you a blessed year. In regards to the quote by Matthew Henry it was a good reminder to me as well and my hope was it would be a good reminder to others. We need to be ever mindful that any gift we have was given to us by God and it is for His glory. In light of Brother Hank's post 181928 where he shared from his prayer journal I'll share this short but in my case many times necessary prayer as it fits well with the quote from Matthew Henry. Father, forgive me for what I make of it some times! Azure I have read your post as you have engaged in this forum and one thing that stands out to me is you are very gracious and kind to all. Another great reminder to everyone I might add! God bless you Sister, Steve |
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398 | gifts of Healing and Miracles for today. | 1 Cor 12:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 187092 | ||
Greetings Van! It is an interesting subject for sure :-) It goes without saying I have to be honest :-) so let me start off with saying that although I have looked into this subject a bit I have not spent a great deal of time studying it. So, although I can't address each gift I would like to draw your attention to the first few given and get your thoughts on this. 1 Corinthians 12:28 (NASB) And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, ... Keeping in mind what you pointed out that the verse says "God has appointed in the church" consider the following regarding the church. Ephesians 2:19-20 (NASB) 2:19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God's household, 2:20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, First point, Christ is the corner stone! Amen to that! Second point, notice verse 20 says "having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets..." So as I understand this, the foundation is made up of the apostles and prophets with Christ as the corner stone (i.e. the first "stone" set that all other stones of the foundation and the rest of the building will be set in reference to. One way of putting it :-) So as God's household (v19) is being likened to a building, being fitted together (v21) we can safely say I would think, that the foundation was laid by Christ and by the apostles and prophets. The question arises, what need is there of any more building of the foundation when the building of God's household has moved beyond the building of the foundation? Go back and look at verse 19 again along with the first part of verse 20. The Gentiles have been made a part of God's household, having been built on the foundation which has already been established as the apostles and prophets with Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone. Your thoughts? Anyone's thoughts :-) By Faith, Steve |
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399 | gifts of Healing and Miracles for today. | 1 Cor 12:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 187199 | ||
I agree Mark, we have not attained the full measure yet! Ephesians 2:20 seems to seal it up for me on this one Mark. At least as I am able to understand it. I will agree there are debates / questions per say to what apostles and prophets might Paul be referring to. As I see it, although he might not have given names at this point, he does clearly point out that they are those in which the established foundation (apostles and prophets, Christ Himself being the chief corner stone) is being built upon. But what seems clear to me from this is the foundation has been established. I cannot find in scripture where there is any indication that the foundation requires anything other then what has already been established. You ask, “But what do we do with Ephesians 4?” I fail to see where this passage changes anything. These are the same apostles and prophets in which the foundation was established. Agreed? It should be noted, time has not nor will it change the established foundation! Will it? How is it possible to build upon that which is built to support, if there is ever to be a need to change it? The apostles and prophets that were given to the Church, those mentioned in Ephesians 2:20 in reference to the foundation and the working out of their gift in the body of Christ is still just as much in affect and edifying to the body today as it was when they walked this earth. Point being, their gift was given to establish the foundation the rest would be built upon. The gifts given to them for the Church remain with the Church to this day! This is how I understand it. This is why I do not see how Ephesians 4 changes anything. Hope I made sense? At least that’s how I see it :-) By Faith Brother, Steve |
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400 | gifts of Healing and Miracles for today. | 1 Cor 12:9 | humbledbyhisgrace | 187200 | ||
Greetings Brother! I hear what your saying. Let me just say this. First, thanks for responding. For me it is just a great joy to discuss the word of God with my Brothers and Sisters in Christ. Like you, I just want to be sanctified by the truth (John 17:17). Also, there is a bit more we are required to do then just preach the gospel. Much is being overlooked in the church today as it appears there is much neglect of Matthew 28:20. But that's another discussion ;-) In regards to the gifts you are referring to. As I said, I’ve looked into this subject some and although I lean to one side of the debate so to speak, much of it I have not been able to reconcile to a point I’m willing to be dogmatic on it. I do believe it is important for the very reason we see today and that is many of the false teachings which stand on claims of certain gifts! We could list the different cults that have laid claim to Christianity that have done this very thing but most of us probably already know who they are. I’m not saying I disagree with you on the gift of healing. However, if I may be so bold as to say what you have offered really does not reach the level of establishing the truth in this matter in my opinion. Please don’t be offended as that is not my intent but I'm of the opinion these arguments fall short on the matter. Of course, so do mine probably. No pride here or self appointed authority, just trying to work it all out. Consider what you say regarding Paul not healing himself. Ask these questions. Who allowed it? What was the reason for it? Do you see my point that this falls short of establishing the answers to the overall question? It is my opinion that we cannot say that Paul could not heal himself because he did not have the gift to heal. Rather, the affliction was meant for Paul’s good (i.e. lest he should be exalted above measure). The gift was not meant to contradict the will of God! It just doesn't add up. In the case of Timothy, what need was there for a miracle of God to heal him? Evidently, the wine would have been sufficient. I think we must be mindful of what the gifts were given for! Just some thoughts! By Faith Brother, Steve |
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