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4761 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18359 | ||
You also forgot the gold dust falling from heaven along with everyone's fillings being replaced with gold. EdB |
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4762 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18357 | ||
Steve This tactic is used to tickle ears and pump up the number of listeners either in the pew or on TV |
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4763 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18356 | ||
Steve this is called replacement theology and has some of it's roots with a twisted view of dispensationialism. More importantly it is turned on and turn off by some preachers when it fits their needs. They find blessing spoken to Israel and claim them, but when they come to a curse spoken to Israel they say oh that was only for Israel. | ||||||
4764 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18355 | ||
Steve I might caution you here. There are Catholics that do not hold to this teaching. It is called Marylogy and is a fairly recent teaching, began in the last 200 years or so with an increasing significance in the last 20 or so. Many believe it may be used by the Antichrist to form a one world religion based on Catholicism and Islam. Marylogist look to " the Lady of Fatima" and Mohammed’s sister's name was Fatima. It is spiced up with 3 secrets that were given by the Lady of Fatima 2 of which have been revealed and one is still a secret and is said to involve Islam. |
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4765 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18354 | ||
Steve I honestly know of no teaching like this. I think many people believe this as Charismatics or about Charismatics but as far as I know there is no denomination doctrine that teaches this. It certainly not taught in either the Church of God or the Assemblies of God and I don't believe it is taught as such in the Church of God in Christ these three are your major pentecostal or Charismatic denominations. |
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4766 | What do you object to? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18353 | ||
Kalos This question got separated from the original thread. In that thread I was telling someone to keep seeking for a Pastor he could trust. Then Kelkat said try watching Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyers, or James Kennedy and Focus on the Family. I then asked the question how could Kelkat include Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyers in a list with James Kennedy and Focus on the Family? The individuals we are talking about are Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyers, but you could include many others since these three teach the Word of Faith doctrine which is so popular on TV. This teaching has it’s roots in the metaphysical where nothing exists until a catalyst makes it so. The Metaphysical calls this catalyst speaking something into existence or speaking it so, or calling it so. WOF calls this catalyst speaking out in faith or the ‘Word of Faith’. However I have heard many of these individuals actually say “calling it so” or “speaking it so” making no attempt to disguise it from the basic thesis of Metaphysical teaching. |
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4767 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | EdB | 18289 | ||
Kelkat I'm more than willing to end this. I was just trying to answer your question. Remember it was you that asked what was wrong with these individuals way back when. However there are teachings of these individuals that will keep you out of Heaven. probably the biggest and worst is it is okay to be presumptuous with God. Peace EdB |
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4768 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | EdB | 18253 | ||
Kelkat I'm confused. If you believe as you say you believe how then do you defend these individuals that say God wants them rich. How do you defend these individuals that claim with enough faith you will never get sick? How do you defend their position that nothing "is" until you speak it? If you believe what you say you believe then you can't believe what they say. Help my confusion! EdB |
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4769 | How do we know the Bible is the truth? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18159 | ||
Joe Your right the Book of Mormom does make that claim and that statement might stand if it were not for the fact the Book of Mormon contains provable errors. So the fact that it contains provable errors makes in untrustworthy. For something to be called true it has to stand the test of scrutiny, which the Bible has. The Bible contains no fact that has been ever proven wrong. |
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4770 | Possible Lockman Forum Improvements #2 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18155 | ||
Joe I totally apologize, I honestly do not know what I was reading. I went back and reread (or read with understanding for the first time) your response. I misunderstood what you were saying and I am really sorry!!! I agree with you with the exception of who visits this forum. I believe (can't prove) there are many seekers and baby Christians that come here looking to see what Christianity is all about. My concern is what picture are we painting for them. I agree with you scripture when handled correctly will interpret itself. The problems come when you ignore the rules of gammar and develop our own interpretations. I so sorry for the misunderstanding, I really don't know what I was reading. EdB |
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4771 | Possible Lockman Forum Improvements #2 | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 18067 | ||
Joe I was never one to shy away from a good debate. I usually jump in with both feet. However step back and look what it presents to a new believer or a seeker. It appears the Christian community is so divided, or fragmented that no one is quite sure what to believe. The best they can do is to agree to disagree. Furthermore many times since there is no consensus of opinion a person could walk way thinking as a Christian your are free to believe what you want as long as you respectfully agree to disagree with anyone that tells you different. We being human and do to differences in education, biases, and many other factors, we refuse to read passages by defined standards of grammar and fail to hold the one passage of the bible will not conflict with another if the correct context is found for both. Therefore we are unable to find the correct meaning to a passage and agree to disagree. I submit to you that is not how God intended his Word to be taken. So I wouldn’t stand so proud on your ability to agree to disagree. That said as to item #3 the summary if I was summarizing a debate would you not expect me to present my summarization in such a way that my point was more favorably shaded than yours? In other words after we agree to disagree as you put it and having the responsibility to summarize the discussion wouldn’t I be tempted to take on last shot at your position through this final summarization? I wonder how Christ views our thick skins and eagerness to debate? :-) EdB |
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4772 | Can a woman pastor a church? | 1 Tim 3:1 | EdB | 18042 | ||
Lionstrong Excellent!! EdB |
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4773 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | EdB | 18013 | ||
Kelkat Read the info at these sites then let me know what you think. http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/ http://www.watchman.org/profile/wordpro.htm http://www.scionofzion.com/wof.htm http://cultlink.com/sentinel/hickey.htm http://www.biblebb.com/files/WRDFAITH.HTM http://www.banner.org.uk/wof/tract3.html http://www.letusreason.org/WFDir.htm |
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4774 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | EdB | 18010 | ||
Kelkat There is absolutely nothing wrong with what you just stated. What I say is wrong is these individuals take scripture out of context, ignore rules of grammar, and manipulate scripture to suit their bent. If you refuse to believe documented proof, if you refuse to believe personal testimony, if you refuse to believe testimony of experts what more can I say or do? As to the CRI issue what difference does it make to this discussion? Unless you suggesting they manufactured the evidence, in which case I would ask why have they gone unchallenged or when challenged why did they prevail? To me the answer is obvious, they had the facts and the facts supports what they were saying. Again if you chose to ignore this fine, but by ignoring the facts you don't change anything. You have made bold statements that what they teach is correct or at least harmless. Yet when I supply personal observations of the effect of this teaching on others you more or less blow it off as they listened to the wrong thing. When I suggest you may be blessed in that you had a basic foundation and was able to decipher the truth from this teaching you say can’t be they were my teacher. Isn’t it interesting that more than one person or more than one group or even more than just a few people point to these individuals as purveyors of bad doctrine and all of these people have to be wrong because you have it right? I really don’t care if you like these guys or not. After YOU ASKED I tried to the best of my ability to show you the problems with their teaching. I have personally seen enough documentation, seen enough ruined lives, talked to enough people, read enough material and have experienced enough of their teaching to KNOW I want no part of it. If you refuse to accept this okay. But don’t stand there and tell me they are not false teachers, teaching false doctrine. |
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4775 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | EdB | 18009 | ||
Kelkat Fine if you want to listen to their junk that is fine, but don't expect me to sit idly by as you recommend it to someone else. |
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4776 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | EdB | 17981 | ||
Kelkat I think I know the problem. You know and believe the right way, so when these individuals say it the wrong way, you take it in, clean it up, process it, and say that is good teaching. Like I said you need to read Christianity in Crisis and Counterfeit Revival. Then after seeing what they are really saying in black and white if you still think these what these individuals teach is right we can discuss it from there. |
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4777 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | EdB | 17979 | ||
Kelkat If you believe God has to do something just because you believe it and put your faith in it, what are you doing but making God puny. You sure can't be saying He is sovereign. That is exactly what these individuals teach, God has to do it if you put you faith in it. Now they couch their words very carefully to say if God said He’ll do it. However if you carefully examine their exegesis you will see they pull everything out of context and once what they are really saying is boiled down your are left with “God has to do it if you believe it.” |
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4778 | Can we agree? | Hebrews | EdB | 17977 | ||
Kelkat The statement you made about CRI is as far as I know was a rumor that was being spread about 5-7 years ago by some unhappy individuals. I believe the founder of CRI hand picked Hank. In any case what does that have to do with this discussion. Whether Hank and CRI are going the wrong direction has nothing to do with the validity of the evidence they present. Maybe their motives are wrong (and I’m not saying they are) does that falsify the fact they report? If you still want to disregard CRI then do a search on the web for these individuals and see for yourself the many other places their false teachings have been documented. EdB |
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4779 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 17975 | ||
Tim You and I believe exactly the same, which I believe is exactly what the Bible says. EdB |
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4780 | can you lose your salvation | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 17974 | ||
Kalos Thank you for your kind words, maybe I over simplified what I was trying to say. What I meant to say was if your living to please Jesus, and I think that is how we all should live, there is enough assurance in the Bible to tells us we will not lose our salvation. I took that statement and simplified it to say If you love Jesus the answer to the question, can I lose my salvation or not, is of no importance to you. Be Blessed my brother EdB |
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