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301 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42604 | ||
Hi Tim, I see this doctrine of the old sin nature much the same way that you do. I once heard it explained that the old sin nature (OSN) is passed down to us through the genetic gene structure and the OSN is in every cell of our body. This is all extra biblical but it sure makes a lot of sense to me. This OSN is evident in all of us even believers after we receive our new nature, which is patterned after Christ; we are always being controlled by one or the other natures at all times. It is an absolute, which means all of one or the other, not a little of both, nothing less then 100 percent, is always controlling us at every moment. When God is in total control of us, we are said to be filled with the Spirit. At the point of faith in Jesus Christ, or salvation, God says that he will never leave us or forsake us, but that is not to say that he is in full control of our lives all of the time. When the OSN takes over, a result of giving into sin, we are said to be grieving or quenching the Spirit. This is the reason for Paul's war in the flesh in Romans Chapter 7 starting at verse 15 on. The word for flesh or (sarx) in the Koine Greek, could at times be used as a synonym for the old sin nature. The way to get out from under the control of the OSN is to use I John 1:9 ; that puts God back in control again until we give in to our OSN. Paul got so frustrated with this that he made the statement in last part of Romans 7:24,25 Romans 7:24-25 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. I imagine this is probably old stuff to you! CDBJ |
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302 | Why would someone get rebaptised? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42608 | ||
Sometimes in home Bible studies, just to see if people are awake, I will ask, how many of each animal did Moses take on the Ark? Someone always pipes up with two, then someone will laugh; it kind of breaks the ice. I enjoy your post Joe, Keep us on our toes, CDBJ |
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303 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42691 | ||
Eschatology has more or less been my main interest, while studying through the Bible, and has been for over the past 36 years. There have always been portions of Scripture that haven't made sense to me from either the pretribulational or the posttrubulational view and these are the only two schools that even come close to standing up to any real scrutiny. The key that has to fit for the absolute truth comes to us from Psalm 119:160 (NASB) The sum of Thy word is truth, And every one of Thy righteous ordinances is everlasting. The sum of thy word actually means the totality of every thing that God has said in his Word on any given subject combined will give us truth. We are not at liberty to pick and chose if there is portion of Scripture that the runs contrary to what we think is truth. There are no mistakes in God's Word. What might appear to be a contradiction in the Bible, is in fact a paradigm paralysis on the part of the searcher who fails to find the common denominator that causes all the Scripture pieces to fit or not fit together. I tried to show you something that I found that cleared up all of the confusion that I have had for years, by pointing you to the truth. But it seem that what you are looking for isn't the truth of eschatology but a friendly dialogue of sorts. Let me say before we started, my position is firm pre-millenniums and I use to be an proponent of pretribulation rapture but that has changed with knowledge that is backed up with truth. So you shoot out with the darts one at a time and I will do the best that I can. CDBJ |
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304 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42870 | ||
Farout , I get excited when I study future events and the Lord reveals something new to me that I hadn't seen before. I can't even begin to tell you how many books that I have read on eschatology and all but the last one that I have been studying with have left me with more questions then they have answered. You are right when you say that no one knows the day or the hour, as Jesus stated this in Matthew as you well know. What a lot of people don't realize is that Christ didn't say anything beyond that. The disciples were very concerned when they finally realized that Jesus was going to leave, so their question to him in Matthew was very pointed as to when he would return. Scripture tells us that the Gentiles always seek wisdom but the Jew look for a sign, so that was the thrust of their question: what will be the sign of your coming and the sign of the end of the world; which is the Koine Greek word (aion) and is better translated age. It appears that they knew that the end of the age would be at the same time by their question. If you like to study from an extra biblical source that ties all of the Scripture together you might get a copy of a book called The Sign by Robert Van Kampen, It is with out a doubt the most informative book that I have ever read on eschatology, baring none. I have been through it four or five times and I can't grasp it all yet. I wanted so much to meet the author but he went to be with the Lord just after finishing the book; it seem as though the Lord left him here just long enough to give it to us and I can tell you it has been a real blessing to me. Must rush for now, CDBJ |
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305 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 42889 | ||
This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come." --Matthew 24:14 It doesn't look like man will get the job done though, we seem to be getting further behind. There are probably more dialects now in all the languages then there are missionaries; there again God has it covered. Rev. 14:6-7 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. |
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306 | eternal security | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 43079 | ||
I wonder which one of the, many named, sins that Christ didn't die for; that would be the one to that would probably cause the most trouble. When you say repent, also what exactly do you mean, and is it all inclusive? Maybe the person wasn't saved in the first place? What if I didn't know that something was a sin, since I hadn't lived such a sheltered life? Do you suppose that this repentance from sin might be a gradual process maybe, as I dig more into God's Word? Then again, what if one were to die before they learned it all? Maybe this repentance has to do more with what I think about Jesus Christ then I do myself! I hope you realize that with some of this I am being facetious, but I am trying to prove a point! The difference between liberty and license, I think, should be the Question. CDBJ |
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307 | eternal security | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 43320 | ||
We all have our own individual problem with sin, as it were. James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. I don't particularly care to advertise mine, but I'll be perfectly honest with you I don't think that there is any sin that a believer can't commit, even after they are saved. I am not saying that is right, after all what sin is right but if a person has truly at some point in time trusted in Jesus Christ as their personal Savior through a revelation from God as far a repentance goes with faith in Christ, they are two sides of the same coin. Paul must have been having a war within him self or he wouldn't have written Romans 7:15-25 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. I am not at liberty to say if someone is saved or not just because they commit some sin that shocks me, God knows. Notice we have the parable of the wheat and the tears that covers such a situation. Matthew 13:24-30 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. The disciples must have had about the same question in their mind about the salvation of some because they questioned the Lord on this parable. Matthew 13:36-43 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. 37He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; 39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Whoever understands this fine, CDBJ |
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308 | Is bap to New what circum was to Old? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 43442 | ||
Jarlaxle, welcome to the forum, go to the upper right section of the home screen and put in the word baptize or baptism in the word search and you could spend a week reading it all: this topic has been pretty well talked over, then if you still have a question that you don't quit understand get back and fire away. CDBJ | ||||||
309 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44262 | ||
Hello Congregationalist, you sound like Reformer only with another hat on; you two should really hit it off. When it comes to Calvinistic teaching, some of it I can believe and other parts I can't. I am Calvinistic in my thinking when it comes to eternal security. It seems to me that thinking along the lines that you mentioned destroys a person's drive, with reference to getting the Gospel out. If it isn't going to make any difference anyway, since the people that one might witness to are predestined already, why waste your time; and why bother to pray for someone if God has already made his decisions! Maybe that's where Romans 11:33 comes into play? Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! CDBJ |
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310 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44529 | ||
Hello Congregationalist, Reformer Joe is a very active member of the forum who sounds just like you. I am sure that you two will meet at some point in a discussion. Joe is very interesting to talk with and he is very well versed on Scripture; he knows Reform Theology like the back of his hand, but then again he has been whacked a few times on the back of that same hand by some on the forum, you'll like Joe. I ask you a question and this is how you answered. Does the Bible teach predestination or not? Can you please tell me? Nice ploy, but you answer my logical question first; mine is easy since all I want is your opinion. There is no verse to back it up either way. CDBJ |
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311 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44577 | ||
I keep forgetting this thing isn't a telephone; it looks like nothing is private anymore. Well I guess you caught me in with the goods. I was telling a new guy on the block that, after reading his post, I thought it was you, wearing a different hat. The thread seemed like it had a familiar tone but the name was different. Congregationalist wasn't sure who I was referring to so I tried to explain it to him. I managed to leave out all the nasty stuff that you spring on all us helpless souls on the forum, so don't worry he is still venerable and I will let you dump all that on him yourself. Good by Joe, CDBJ |
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312 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44657 | ||
I hope that your trip was one of a pleasant nature. The eternal life isn't something that believers acquire, it is actually the by product, if I may use such terms, that comes to the one who puts all of his trust in God's Son. When Christ enters the believer's soul, as it were, he is there for keeps. Hebrews 13:5 B I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. You said in your statement, (The fact life is "eternal" does not prove we cannot lose it. "Eternal" describes the nature of the life. It has nothing to do with whether it can or cannot be lost.) I didn't do anything to get eternal life and I am not doing anything to keep it; it all depends on the Lord so how can I do anything to lose it? What sin could I possibly commit that is to big for the plan of God; or what sin in didn't Christ die for, other then not believing in Him, and since the problem of unbelief was handled at the point of salvation all of the problems are taken care of by God. It is interesting to note that the word believe, as in Acts 16:31, was from the Koine Greek word (pisteuo) and it is in the aorist tense. The aorist tense is an action performed in a point of time, yet divorced from time and perpetuated forever. It is kind of like jumping out of an airplane in your birthday suit and on the way down you decide that you want to change your mind: your fate isn't in your hands at that point, it is the same way with salvation. If the Lord doesn't want to reveal this fact to some, that is his prerogative, but it sure opened up a wealth of praise for me when I learned it; It taught me more of just how wonderful my salvation in the Lord Jesus Christ really is and how to rest in Him. I use to think the same way that you do about losing salvation. Yours in Christ, CDBJ |
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313 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44688 | ||
Your reference in (II Chr. 15:2) is in the Old Testament where it was also said in Psalm 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. This is also impossible now, since the advent of Christ. I think a verse that you could have used to better try and prove your point would have been 2 Tim. 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: You stated; The fact that God will never leave or forsake thee, speaks of the impossibility of God ever leaving or forsaking us, but says nothing about the possibility of us leaving or forsaking Him. The only problem is that the verse that follows proves my point and the answer to our leaving him or believing not once we have believed. 2 Tim. 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. It is like I said in my earlier post. (If the Lord doesn't want to reveal this fact to some, that is his prerogative) I sure am glad that he reveal this truth to me; the nice part is that I am out from under the gun. It sure is sad though to think that you might mess up some day and lose out; which is what you are implying, right? You might as well blot out 1 John 5:10-13 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. The reason being you don't believe this can be taken at face value; or you need to add (but you can lose it at the very end) I hope you know that I am being sarcastic, CDBJ |
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314 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44762 | ||
How do you do away with the fact that we are born into God's family by being born again and have become a new creation? Just like the family that you were born into physically no mater happens you can't be unborn. Please tell me what sin it that you might commit that is to great for the plan of God? |
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315 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44807 | ||
It is (my opinion) that those who think that they can lose their salvation are putting more emphasis on the inabilities of man, then they do the abilities of God and his sovereignty to save those that are resting in of his plan. John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. How many times can those that believe this way be saved or born again, it there a limit? Or is there no hope for them once they commit these sins that you mention? Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. What if you might have committed one of these bad sins that you suggest, that means that you might be in the category of Hebrews just mentioned! |
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316 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44823 | ||
You said, Reread my last reply, I didn't ever suggest a single sin would cause someone to become hopelessly lost Yes that is right you did; so then (what are these many sins) that you assume can cause the loss of your salvation? And as for the first part of your post, " If I endure, as scripture says I shall be saved," where in the scripture did you find that, which is in context with your salvation through Christ? |
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317 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44900 | ||
You mentioned that only if you endure until the end will you be saved, and you used Matthew 24:13 as one of the verses to back up your statement. Do you assume since using this verse that we are going through the tribulation period now, seeing as how that is the context of Matthew 24? The word saved is from the Koine Greek (sozo) and in the text mentioned it carries the connotation of being delivered from persecution; it is not referring to the salvation of the soul. Matthew 24:3-4 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. |
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318 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44966 | ||
Blessings New Creature, what you are saying is great and we know that all Scripture has a primary interpretation and many applications. At this point we are just trying to get the primary on straight, I would assume. You used the writings of Paul to emphasize and make your point. (It may be better to understand the life of faith we live in the way Paul sometimes mentioned it. as a "race" Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset [us], and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,) The problem with using this for your basis is that the writer of Hebrews isn't known, so you can't say with certainty that it was Paul. The race that was mentioned by Paul in found in is found in II Timothy. 2 Tim. 4:7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: The problem with trying to use this as the answer to maintaining your position on the negative aspect of eternal security is that you would have to pull it out of context with the following verse. 2 Tim. 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. This is what I have been trying to tell you all along, our salvation is secure in Christ but rewards are another story. Rewards can be lost if one doesn't go by the rules. 1 Cor. 9:24-27 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. The word castaway comes to us from the word (ADOKIMOS), which carries the connotation of not being a metal winner because they were found to be on steroids or in our case sin in the life. It is not talking about salvation because we are more then winners through Christ when it comes to salvation. People who are constantly striving to maintain their salvation are running alright, but the are running for the wrong purpose. That race for eternal life is over for those in Christ at the point of salvation when we became new creatures in Christ; we are more then conquerors through him. Romans 8:37-39 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. You are trying to convince me that I don't know something that I am sure of, by telling me that you don't believe it. If the Lord has not convinced you that you can have eternal security, through what he has done, then far be it of me to try and convince you, run on! It is about like telling a person about salvation when they are not saved yet; they will argue till they are blue in the face that a person can't know such a thing until they die. Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Dear New Creature I have nothing more to say on this matter except study, study, study. Maybe the Lord doesn't reveal the same things to all believers I really don't know but this one thing I do know and that is Romans 8:38-39 NIV For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Yours in Christ forever, CDBJ |
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319 | The Cross,Jesus and Mary are they Idols? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 45047 | ||
The thumbs up, being a pilot myself, came to us for a signal that the control surface on the elevators was working properly and that it is OK to takeoff. Now the outer things that you mentioned are objects of religion and they are not mentioned in the Bible. Those little plastic figures might even be the exact image of Satan himself no one knows. We have no pictures of those mentioned so who can tell what they might represent if the truth be known; God says Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Just because some religions use them doesn't make it right in God's eyes. |
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320 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 45142 | ||
Thank you for your response, as I can see you put a lot of thought into it. I will be honest with you with my answer and you might think that I am at times a little fickle. I have been a believer for over 36 years now and I study more then the average bear. I am active in teaching Bible studies and I like to dig into the Koine Greek for a fuller understanding of the Word. I don't think that there is anything more rewarding then leading someone to the Lord for salvation. As I said, I will be honest when I tell you that there are times when I think that Calvin is right and then there are times when I lean toward Arminianism; now if that isn't being fickle I don't know what is! I am a very, very firm believer in eternal security and this is one point that I can't be budged from, no mater how people try to twist scripture around, grace is grace. When it come to predestination, of course the Bible teaches it, but to grasp the full understanding of what it is, at times I am not able to grasp it, that or I might have a paradigm paralysis or just a plain mental block. The verse that comes to mind when I think of predestination is found in Romans 9:21 (KJV) Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? It think this way a while then my mind drifts toward that fact that God made us with a free will to chose, and that’s what pleases him, when we make a decision to love him not because we are programmed that way but because we want to, on our own. 1 John 4:10 (KJV) Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Can one ever enjoy something that is done for them when the person that did it is forced to do it: do you see where I am coming from? It must be nice to be firmly entrenched in one camp or the other but at this point in time I am having trouble with it as I am torn between both. Yours in Christ, sitting in no-man's land, CDBJ P.S. If you want to get those ugly black blobs out of your post, change your default font to ARIAL 10; I use 14 so I can see it easer but the key is ARIAL. |
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