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1561 | No one except God knows | Heb 4:7 | CDBJ | 34733 | ||
Dear SHA, I understand Hebrews 4:7 but what are you trying to say about the second coming in connection with this verse? CDBJ | ||||||
1562 | is it possible for Jesus to have sinned? | Heb 4:15 | CDBJ | 221186 | ||
Hi Brad, Great post! I’ve done some thinking on this subject with the following in mind from the Latin, “Not able to sin and able not to sin”. I think the zinger spells it out in the book of James. James 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. The word enticed, in the English, is from the Koine Greek word, DELEAZOMENOS, meaning to entice, as with a lure used in fishing. Our lust patters come to us from the old sin nature residing within our flesh or bodies. Since Jesus Christ didn’t have an old sin nature, due to the fact that He was not born from the seed of Adam, I classify the temptation in the wilderness as a “satanic fishing party” because Christ didn’t have any lust patterns therefore He didn’t fall for the bait. Matthew 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. Satan threw everything he had at Christ and the lures didn’t work: Namely, the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life. Jesus used the offensive weapon, the sword of the Spirit, i.e. the Word of God to defeat the attacks, which shows us that we can do the same thing with the knowledge of Bible doctrine residing in our soul, combined with the filling of the Spirit. 1 Cor. 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape,------ that ye may be able to bear it. The function of the shield of faith and the Sward of the Spirit. My spin on it, CDBJ |
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1563 | Mediator | Heb 4:16 | CDBJ | 189003 | ||
Hi Brian, Pray tell, no pun intended, where in the Bible does it say that the saints in heaven can even “hear” the prayers of those on Earth. Maybe you can explain, with Scripture, even if they know what’s going on down here on Earth? It’s bad enough just being here on Earth why would the saints in heaven even want to be reminded of what’s going on down here; they served there time in all this misery. Those in Heaven don’t have a resurrected body yet, so how are they supposed to be able to receive and clearly seperate all of these millions of earthlings talking or praying to them all at once; that’s a good trick and even the highest angel, that God created, doesn’t have the ability to read minds so now explain how far your foice can carry! Only God has omniscience! Maybe Paul didn’t understand as well as you do, that he could help those that he speaks of by praying for them when he got to heaven? Philip. 1:23-25 But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better; 24yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake. 25And convinced of this, I know that I shall remain and continue with you all for your progress and joy in the faith, Can you cite examples where any of the Apostles prayed to those that had passed on or even suggested to we do such? CDBJ |
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1564 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 14600 | ||
One needs to under the construction in the Greek language that the New Testament was written in, when the word (if) is used. There are four classes, and the word if can mean the following. 1st class, if and it's true. 2nd. class, if and it's not true. 3rd. class maybe it's true and maybe it's not. 4th. class I wish it where true but it's not. The class condition that is found in Heb.6:6 is a 2nd class condition. I.E. It's not true. They are secure in Christ and nothing can change that position. Some use Heb.6:4-6 to say that, "see people can loose their salvation!" Well if that is the situation, they can't get it bak again because of v.6 and so much for I Jn.1:9 There is NO sin that Jesus didn't pay the price for, except the one of rejecting Him as there Savior. Now that doesn't mean that we are free to sin all we want, but that we are now free to serve. We will still sin because we are still locked in these bodys, but we are not to practice sin as we did before we were saved. Paul had this same problem, read Rom. 7 Now go back and read what it said in Heb.6:4 (IT"S IMPOSSIBLE)--I hope this helps! CDBJ | ||||||
1565 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 14621 | ||
To Tim Moran--Good point, I should have been looking at more then the KJV. to quote a verse. The if clause isn't in Heb. 6:6 in the Greek, good call. It's a good thing we have Heb.6:9-12 the former category will probably fall into what Jesus called the tares, in the "wheat and the tares " parable. CDBJ | ||||||
1566 | Lost my salvation? (Hebrews 6:4-6) | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 17844 | ||
Onnig, I noticed your profile and you say that you are Armenian; well the laugh is on me, I looked at it to fast and I thought it said Armimian. After I read through your response I thought to myself, that sure sounded Calvinistic to me. It wasn't until I checked back to make sure that didn't read it wrong that I actually saw the E in the middle! Well I agree with you, and while I was reading the verses you had listed, Matt.13:---, I noticed the response of the different ones on whom the seed fell, and a verse jumped out of my memory. Now remember we are talking about believers only; that's our main thrust. Matt. 13:19, says that this one, didn't understand, I.e. an unbeliever. Matt. 13:20, this one got all excited, his emotions were doing all the dictating, no true knowledge of Jesus. I.e. an unbeliever. The next Matt. 13:22, Worldly things and wealth shot him down, he couldn't see past the end of his nose, i.e. an unbeliever. Now the last person, Matt. 13:23, the key word is understanding, and that's where it hit me! Look at Matt. 16:15-18, Jesus ask who they thought he was, and what he was going to do with that information. Peter declared that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God. Jesus told him that the only way that he could have know this for a fact, was by God the father revealing it to him. Peter received UNDERSTANDING of who Jesus is, and it's this understanding that makes us believers, when we trust in Jesus. Jesus said THE ROCK of this statement, and the Father revealing it, would be how He would build His church. The church is an organism, which is alive, not an organization in a building. Only those who have had this reviled to them by the Father are members of this church, the body of Christ. John 10:14 Jesus says "I know my sheep and My sheep know Me" John 10:29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. Maybe those that don't understand this doctrine have not had it revealed to them yet by the Father; it sure is a peace knowing it though. There are many who are troubled by this and they think that they can loose their salvation. It sounds to me like they haven't received the peace that Christ talks about. I didn't do anything to get salvation, how can I do anything to loose it, it was a gift along with the promise that I wouldn't loose it. It depends on Jesus not me, praise the Lord! For those out there that don't believe this, I don't even want to debate it, I know what has been revealed to me the same way that I know I am saved. Yours in Christ, CDBJ | ||||||
1567 | Works in the Christian experience? | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 17886 | ||
I don't know much about religions and their names and terms and who sits in what saddle. I do study the Bible a lot and if you don't mind me asking, what is a Reformer and what is a Westminster confession. If this is a dumb question then you know where I stand. I use to be a Protestant and my wife use to be a staunch Catholic. Now when people ask us what we are, we tell them that we are Proclaimers: they always ask what is that? It provides us an opportunity to tell them what Jesus did for us. They have to listen because they ask the question. (One sows another waters) CDBJ | ||||||
1568 | Works in the Christian experience? | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 17914 | ||
Well I do know some points on Calvinism and Arminianism, and of course I have heard of Luther, but to dwell on their terminology and all the in and outs, this I haven't done. It was once pointed out to me, when I was a very young believer in Christ, that there were over two million religions in the World. They said that I wouldn't have enough time to learn about all of them and to grow in Christ at the same time. They explained to me that a person who works for the treasury department doesn't have time to study all the different counterfeit money that is circulating around; besides all the new phony ones that keep popping up. They do extensive study into the genuine money so that when a fake bill comes along the can spot it with out any trouble; the reason being is that they are so in tune with the real article. As for someone classifying me or not, as a Christian, at least it is Biblical. When God commanded me to study to show myself approver to Him, I am sure He meant for me to study in His Word since: it is inspired by Him and is profitable for teaching, reproof, for correction and instruction in righteousness. There are only so many hours in a day that are devoted toward study. It like someone once quipped, (to each his own.) I heard a good one the other day. The question was, if you were ever arrested for being a follower of Jesus Christ, could they find enough evidence to convict you? One individual said, well, I spend 2 hours each week in church. I ask him if he spent 8hours everyday in his garage, would that make him a car. I don't know if he got the point or not. Anyway thanks for the info. and responding to my thread, now I am more knowledgeable. Yours in Christ, CDBJ | ||||||
1569 | Works in the Christian experience? | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 17925 | ||
My wife and I attend one of the largest churches in Ohio. It is nondenominational and has about eight thousand in attendance on any given Sunday. I enjoy the Sunday school service more then the main church service, that's because I can't carry a tune in a bucket and when I stand to long my back gets out of wack. It is interesting to note that Eph. 4:11-16 KJV, And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the EDIFYING of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the EDIFYING of itself in love. The word edifying in the Greek is the word OIKODOME. The etymology of the word shows that is came down to us as construction term, meaning to build up or construct layer upon layer. This is why we need pastor teachers, to build us up and teach us to do the work of the ministry, doctrine upon doctrine precept upon precept. The church is for believers to learn, it wasn't designed for unbelievers. It is our job to teach people about Christ, then, bring them into the building to learn how to be a witness for Jesus. A lot of local churches today have it all turned around, and they have become nothing more then a glorified dog and pony show to get unbelievers to come in. Wasn't it Paul that told Timothy in II Tim. 4:2 to bring in the football stars and have them give thier testimony. I don't think so! I know it says let the redeemed of the Lord say so, but there is a time and a place! So many churches will do about anything to fill the seats. If they would just give a good exegetical study of God's Word, as they are commanded, God would bring in the saints and fill the seats and they would grow! Believers are hungry for God's word and they don't seem to be getting fed any meat. Can you imagine what a person would look like if all they had to dine on was milk every day? Yet in some churches that is all that is cranked out, every Sunday. I think I am getting on my soapbox so I better quit for now. Yours in Christ, CDBJ |
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1570 | Lost my salvation? (Hebrews 6:4-6) | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 17942 | ||
Logic says, that, since God is all knowing, that if some could loose their salvation, why does He bother saving them in the first place? It can't be done! It all depends on Him and if you are secure in Christ there is no problem. I like the example of the believer, who was practicing incest, and what Paul said. I Cor. 5:5 I have decided to deliver such a one to Satan for the destruction of his flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. Now there is a sin unto death for you, (Physical) but he is still saved. I like those that say David wasn't truly saved when He had his fling with Bathsheba. They say that a believer couldn't do that and still be saved, get real! We will continue to have an old sin nature until we are out of these bodies. It's in our cell structure thanks to our great--------------grandfather, Adam. We can't get rid of that old nature the same way we can't get rid of our new nature, once we are a believer in Jesus, Adam seals the one and God seal the other. (In my opinion), with due respect to others, saying that a person can loose their salvation, is teetering on the edge of blaspheme. Yours IN Christ,no comment needed,one is eather secure in Christ or they are not! CDBJ |
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1571 | can you lose it? | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 110371 | ||
Hi Rowdy, Is better safe then sorry the same as saying, better alive then dead; If that's the case I would say that that would be rather obvious and I don't think that you will get any objection from the other camp! CDBJ |
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1572 | When are names put in the Book of Life | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 193294 | ||
Greetings, Are you surmising then that you can fall away? CDBJ |
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1573 | When are names put in the Book of Life | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 193313 | ||
I was saved about 42 years ago, when I crossed through that narrow gate and that gate Jesus Himself. I became a child of God and or one of his divinely protected sheep. I don’t know what it is that people are reading in Hebrew 6: but if it’s something about loosing ones salvation they better read it starting in Heb.6:4 because if they have already lost their salvation it’s impossible to get it back according to what those verses claim and the way they are reading it. The Good News is this, it’s impossible to loose salvation and here is why. It’s impossible to lose salvation because if it could be lost there would be no way to regain it, and that’s what the author is trying to point out. There is no way to loose it because if that were a possibility. Then there would be no way to get it back seeing those that make this claim are in the process of crucifying to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. If I say that I can lose my salvation then God’s plain for eternal life has a flaw in it! If there were anything that I could do that could negate the work of Jesus Christ for my life, would have to be the epitome of human arrogance. That, in effect is like saying that God wasn’t smart enough to figure out all the problems that I would face as a believer in Christ. The myriads of “believers” can’t seem to remove themselves from the cradle and as a result they will never get past first base in the spiritual life. They expel all of their energy just trying to maintain their salvation and have failed to exercise and respond to 1 John 1:9 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. God wants them to go on to perfection and be weaned off of the milk of the word. The Lord had a special rest for “believers” in there daily walk and it’s completely separated from saving grace, It’s a grace for living. John 10:10 I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. Believers are the only ones that can enter this stage of maturity. The majority of Christians have nothing to show but a birth announcement because they can’t get past the eternal security hang ups. Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Some will never get past being breast feed because the only Grace they have ever experienced is Saving Grace. Hebrews 6:9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. Hebrews 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. Hebrews 3:1 Wherefore, holy brethren , partakers of the heavenly calling , consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession , Christ Jesus; Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. A faith rest “yet remains” available to those that have entered God’s family by Christ Jesus. This is life is the “more abundantly” that Jesus speaks of and we are to utilize it by the use of 1 John 1:9, plus claiming the provisional logistical grace promises that God has provided through out His Word. Hebrews 4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. CDBJ |
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1574 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 207615 | ||
Hi Beja, I would like to contribute some food for thought to the verses in debate. Within the grammar of the Koine Greek there is what’s known as a conditional clause, which begins with the equivalent translated “if” in the English. There are four different ways to translate and understand the “if”clause. 1st class condition ---- if and it is true (Matt. 4:6) 2nd class “ ---- if and it isn’t true (Matt. 4:9 John 4:10) 3rd class “ ---- if maybe it’s true and maybe it’s not (1John 1:9) Probability. 4th class “ ---- if I wish it were true but it’s not (Acts 17:27 1Peter 3:14, 17) Possibility. Most of those that assume they can loose their salvation don’t take into consideration the following if their premise could be correct. Verses 4- 6 of Hebrews 6 is essence says that it is impossible to be “resaved” as it were, because of the following reason. Hebrews 6:4-6 they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. So if one could be saved and then lose their salvation they can’t ever be saved again. Now on the side of “logic”, since God is omniscient i.e. He knows all things, why would He bother saving them in the first place if He knew they were going to lose it. “My” salvation didn’t depend on me to get it and it doesn’t depend on me to sustain it; it’s all a grace operation and my God gets all the credit. “Being a child of God” I can either be blessed in grace or disciplined in grace but God is going to conform me to the image of His Son, be it the easy way or the hard way, God will accomplish His purpose for calling me and you can take that to the bank! The Lord will either orientate me to grace here on Earth or take me home and do it real quick. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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1575 | True fact of future sin | Heb 6:4 | CDBJ | 243810 | ||
It is the quintessence of human arrogance and blasphemy, for one who claims to be a believer, saved by grace, to infer that they are able to commit a sin that God didn’t realize that they would commit when they were originally saved. One who would admit to such a condition is surly teetering on the brink of the sin unto death to say the least; if they are unable to assimilate the truth of Bible doctrine in this life, God can definitely orientate them to His surpassing grace in the life to come. Romans 8:38-39 (NASB) Ro 38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. CDBJ |
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1576 | If you are saved can you lose it | Heb 6:6 | CDBJ | 75594 | ||
Friend, you sound like a very smart and enlightened individual and I would like to point a question to you that is rhetorical and doesn’t demand an answer. Of all the people in this world and all the knowledge of information they have, if it could to be measured, what portion of that whole do you suppose you would be blessed with? I hope, if you were honest, you would say a very infinitesimal part. That being the case, do you suppose it’s possible that there are some people out there that have had something revealed to them, from God, that hasn’t been revealed to you? Believe me when I tell you that you are barking up the wrong tree with the statement that you made. You stated, “I know that most people don't believe this because they've slipped down the slippery slope of 'total depravity', but the doctrine of eternal security is false”. Eternal security is non-existent and false to you because you haven’t got it yet! I believe that the grace of God and his plan for my eternal life are far greater then anything that I might do, that would cause me to lose it. If I thought I could loose eternal life I would be showing the epitome of arrogance by assuming that I could do something that God didn’t take into consideration when he saved me in the first place. It would be a slap in the face with regard to his omniscience. There is no sin, that in a time of weakness, I could commit that is so super that the death of Jesus didn’t take care of it. My savior is fantastic and thought of everything: Jesus did it all and the closer I get the more I realize it. 2 Tim. 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. How good is good enough? CDBJ |
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1577 | If you are saved can you lose it | Heb 6:6 | CDBJ | 75612 | ||
Nice post, but since you used Esau as the example, do you remember that the blessing once it was given to his brother that it couldn’t be taken back? I have already received the blessing from God and boy don’t I know it, Praise the Lord. CDBJ |
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1578 | If you are saved can you lose it | Heb 6:6 | CDBJ | 75622 | ||
Just because you don’t understand eternal security doesn’t mean you don’t have it and if you have undivided trust in the finished work of Jesus you will come under the full protection of what he provides weather you believe it or not and that’s grace. Have a nice day, CDBJ |
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1579 | what does "falling away" mean? | Heb 6:6 | CDBJ | 106281 | ||
Hi Tim, Your post is a little confusing! You quote 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. You suggest that the person is to ask God for forgiveness? Do we have to ask God to forgive us of our sin or does it say that He is faithful and will do it every time if we will just confess it to Him? Confess, Koine Greek, HOMOLOGEO, assent, to name or cite as in a courtroom case. They reason God is faithful and can forgive us is because the sin has already been to court, and the penalty of that sin was paid for by His Son, Jesus. Why should I ask God to do something, forgive sin, when He already said he would; what the Father wants me to do is own up to it and name it to Him. Do we really need to ask God to do something that he already said He would do if we would just confess it? I don’t mean to be critical but isn’t that what it says? In love, CDBJ |
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1580 | what does "falling away" mean? | Heb 6:6 | CDBJ | 106287 | ||
Well then using that as the thesis are you saying then that we are forgiven then because we forgive others; isn’t it because Jesus paid the price for them that we can be forgiven? If the aforementioned is true, with your case and point, then I could have been forgiven of my sins with out the need for Christ to come in the flesh and pay for them. I wouldn’t necessarily have had to trust in Christ’s work on the cross for my sin problem, I could just forgive others and the problem would be solved but we both know that isn’t the case. CDBJ |
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