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1401 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44900 | ||
You mentioned that only if you endure until the end will you be saved, and you used Matthew 24:13 as one of the verses to back up your statement. Do you assume since using this verse that we are going through the tribulation period now, seeing as how that is the context of Matthew 24? The word saved is from the Koine Greek (sozo) and in the text mentioned it carries the connotation of being delivered from persecution; it is not referring to the salvation of the soul. Matthew 24:3-4 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. |
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1402 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44823 | ||
You said, Reread my last reply, I didn't ever suggest a single sin would cause someone to become hopelessly lost Yes that is right you did; so then (what are these many sins) that you assume can cause the loss of your salvation? And as for the first part of your post, " If I endure, as scripture says I shall be saved," where in the scripture did you find that, which is in context with your salvation through Christ? |
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1403 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44807 | ||
It is (my opinion) that those who think that they can lose their salvation are putting more emphasis on the inabilities of man, then they do the abilities of God and his sovereignty to save those that are resting in of his plan. John 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. How many times can those that believe this way be saved or born again, it there a limit? Or is there no hope for them once they commit these sins that you mention? Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. What if you might have committed one of these bad sins that you suggest, that means that you might be in the category of Hebrews just mentioned! |
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1404 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44762 | ||
How do you do away with the fact that we are born into God's family by being born again and have become a new creation? Just like the family that you were born into physically no mater happens you can't be unborn. Please tell me what sin it that you might commit that is to great for the plan of God? |
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1405 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44688 | ||
Your reference in (II Chr. 15:2) is in the Old Testament where it was also said in Psalm 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. This is also impossible now, since the advent of Christ. I think a verse that you could have used to better try and prove your point would have been 2 Tim. 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: You stated; The fact that God will never leave or forsake thee, speaks of the impossibility of God ever leaving or forsaking us, but says nothing about the possibility of us leaving or forsaking Him. The only problem is that the verse that follows proves my point and the answer to our leaving him or believing not once we have believed. 2 Tim. 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. It is like I said in my earlier post. (If the Lord doesn't want to reveal this fact to some, that is his prerogative) I sure am glad that he reveal this truth to me; the nice part is that I am out from under the gun. It sure is sad though to think that you might mess up some day and lose out; which is what you are implying, right? You might as well blot out 1 John 5:10-13 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. The reason being you don't believe this can be taken at face value; or you need to add (but you can lose it at the very end) I hope you know that I am being sarcastic, CDBJ |
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1406 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44657 | ||
I hope that your trip was one of a pleasant nature. The eternal life isn't something that believers acquire, it is actually the by product, if I may use such terms, that comes to the one who puts all of his trust in God's Son. When Christ enters the believer's soul, as it were, he is there for keeps. Hebrews 13:5 B I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. You said in your statement, (The fact life is "eternal" does not prove we cannot lose it. "Eternal" describes the nature of the life. It has nothing to do with whether it can or cannot be lost.) I didn't do anything to get eternal life and I am not doing anything to keep it; it all depends on the Lord so how can I do anything to lose it? What sin could I possibly commit that is to big for the plan of God; or what sin in didn't Christ die for, other then not believing in Him, and since the problem of unbelief was handled at the point of salvation all of the problems are taken care of by God. It is interesting to note that the word believe, as in Acts 16:31, was from the Koine Greek word (pisteuo) and it is in the aorist tense. The aorist tense is an action performed in a point of time, yet divorced from time and perpetuated forever. It is kind of like jumping out of an airplane in your birthday suit and on the way down you decide that you want to change your mind: your fate isn't in your hands at that point, it is the same way with salvation. If the Lord doesn't want to reveal this fact to some, that is his prerogative, but it sure opened up a wealth of praise for me when I learned it; It taught me more of just how wonderful my salvation in the Lord Jesus Christ really is and how to rest in Him. I use to think the same way that you do about losing salvation. Yours in Christ, CDBJ |
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1407 | Who are the 144000? Is it literal | Rev 7:4 | CDBJ | 44582 | ||
Hi Ralphie, where does it say that the 144,000 are spreading the gospel, and I can't even find where they are saved at the point when they are sealed. CDBJ | ||||||
1408 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44577 | ||
I keep forgetting this thing isn't a telephone; it looks like nothing is private anymore. Well I guess you caught me in with the goods. I was telling a new guy on the block that, after reading his post, I thought it was you, wearing a different hat. The thread seemed like it had a familiar tone but the name was different. Congregationalist wasn't sure who I was referring to so I tried to explain it to him. I managed to leave out all the nasty stuff that you spring on all us helpless souls on the forum, so don't worry he is still venerable and I will let you dump all that on him yourself. Good by Joe, CDBJ |
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1409 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44529 | ||
Hello Congregationalist, Reformer Joe is a very active member of the forum who sounds just like you. I am sure that you two will meet at some point in a discussion. Joe is very interesting to talk with and he is very well versed on Scripture; he knows Reform Theology like the back of his hand, but then again he has been whacked a few times on the back of that same hand by some on the forum, you'll like Joe. I ask you a question and this is how you answered. Does the Bible teach predestination or not? Can you please tell me? Nice ploy, but you answer my logical question first; mine is easy since all I want is your opinion. There is no verse to back it up either way. CDBJ |
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1410 | What was infused? | Acts 1:3 | CDBJ | 44264 | ||
Hi Doug, please go easy on Makarios and of all things please don't question his integrity; we all love him in the Lord and he has a lot of good doctrine that he has passed on to most of us. If you will click on his name, on any thread, you will see that he has been quite a responder on the forum, much more then most, and with good intentions. Yours in the Lord, CDBJ |
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1411 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 44262 | ||
Hello Congregationalist, you sound like Reformer only with another hat on; you two should really hit it off. When it comes to Calvinistic teaching, some of it I can believe and other parts I can't. I am Calvinistic in my thinking when it comes to eternal security. It seems to me that thinking along the lines that you mentioned destroys a person's drive, with reference to getting the Gospel out. If it isn't going to make any difference anyway, since the people that one might witness to are predestined already, why waste your time; and why bother to pray for someone if God has already made his decisions! Maybe that's where Romans 11:33 comes into play? Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! CDBJ |
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1412 | When does the Baptism occur? | John 7:38 | CDBJ | 44206 | ||
Hello Ray, the way I see it the filling of the Spirit, is a process that involves the action of the will of each believer, otherwise Paul wouldn't have made the statement that he did. Ephes. 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; This is a decision for a positive action to be taken by a believer the same as drinking wine was a decision buy the individual involved. It is interesting to note in Ephes. 5:18 that the word (excess) is translated from the Koine Greek word (asotia); which is a compound word. The (a) is the alpha or negative meaning no or not and (sotia) infers rioting. Thus the use of to much wine leads to a riotous life style. The word (but) from (alla) introduces a contrast from what wine does when controlling the person, to what God wants to do when he is controlling the believers life. Notice the similarity to what is mentioned in I Peter 4:4. 1 Peter 4:4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: At the moment of salvation every believer is indwelt and filled with the Spirit at the same time, thus being controlled by the Holy Spirit: However the filling of the Spirit can be lost, as it only last until the new believer commits their next sin. This sin is actually grieving or quenching the Spirit and the believer's old sin nature, which resides in the flesh, take control of the life again. Believers have two natures after salvation they have a new nature because of Christ and the old sin nature that came from Adam. Even though the Holy Spirit resides with the believer forever, as promised in Hebrews. Hebrews 13:5 B for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. The Holy Spirit is not always controlling or filling the believer that has chosen to sin and removed themselves from fellowship. Paul wrestled with this very problem in Romans 7:15-25 Romans 7:15-25 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Paul was experiencing warfare within himself as to who was going to control him, his old sin nature, or the Holy Spirit. If sin, through the act of negative volition, is what eliminates the filling or controlling of the Spirit then the only way to reestablish the Filling of the Holy Spirit is by an act of positive volition; this is accomplished by a command in I John. 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. The command starts off with an (if), which is a third class condition in the Greek, i.e. maybe we will maybe we won't, but if we do, positive volition, it says that God is faithful, which means he will do it every time, and that he is just, he will forgive. The word (confess) is the Greek word (homologeo) and was originally was used to mean cite or declare as in a courtroom case, i.e. name your sin to God. The reason that God can forgive and be just in doing so is because his Son Jesus Christ paid for that sin on the cross. By doing this God is back in control and the believer is filled with the Spirit. It is helpful to realize what actually can be expected of those that are filled with the Spirit, as is mentioned in Ephes. 5:18-20, and it is interesting to note that a type of speaking takes place, but not what some would lead you to believe! Ephes. 5:18-20 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; 19Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord; 20Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; Not a word was uttered of any form it is all done in silence, in the heart or soul of the one being filled. This is the way I see it, CDBJ |
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1413 | When does the Baptism occur? | John 7:38 | CDBJ | 43847 | ||
Hi Blessed, there is another verse that crystallizes my thanking on the baptism of the Spirit being at the point of salvation. Ephes. 4:5-6 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. The word (one), in Eph.4, is in reference to unification, the only thing that all believers can be unified about is something that they have no control over, needless to say, because it is done for them. All believers know that there is only one Lord, and that is Jesus, there is only one faith that unifies, and all believers have that in the person of Jesus Christ for salvation. All those mentioned are unified by the having the same primary faith in the one Lord i.e. all believers have faith in Jesus as the Son of God and are automatically unified at the point of salvation by the third person of the Trinity the Holy Spirit; thus as the verse explains, we have the Son, the Holy Spirit and the Father. The triune God dwells within all believers at the point of salvation and God gets all the credit. So who do we praise, our GREAT unified God who is one in essence and three in personalities, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. This makes sense to me, what do you think? CDBJ |
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1414 | When does the Baptism occur? | John 7:38 | CDBJ | 43800 | ||
Hello blessed, speaking of the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I see it pretty much the same way that you do. I would like to add some verses that might through some light on the issue. When John the Baptist was speaking about Jesus in Mathew 3:11 Matthew 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: John was speaking to a crowed that contained both believers and unbelievers. They were all going to be baptized by Christ, by one or the other with the Holy Spirit or fire. i.e. Those that receive Christ as their own personal Savior and those that don't will receive Christ's baptism of fire. Rev. 20:12-15 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Is this any help, CDBJ |
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1415 | who are the sons of god and how can one | Gen 6:4 | CDBJ | 43781 | ||
I pray that you will understand what everybody is trying to tell you. I am praying that God the Father will reveal it to you, that those that are truly trusting in the Finished work of Jesus Christ, and what he did on the cross on the cross, already have the ticket, it was paid for by Christ. You can be sinless in God's eyes right now and forever and here is why! 2 Cor. 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. What this is saying is that Jesus took your place and paid the price for sin and if you will trust your life to Jesus and believe in him, the Father will place you in Christ, so that when God looks at you he will see the righteousness that belongs to his Son and not you. The fact of having eternal life is something that you can know right here and now, IF you will just believe what God is telling you from his Word. Paul had the same problem with the Jews as the people on the forum are having with you. Romans 10:1-2 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. You are really searching, but you are not coming up with the right answers because you are not doing the one thing that really counts. Romans 10:3-4 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. What this is saying it that Christ has paid for the ticket, all you have to do it get on board and thank him. I know that I have no right to ask but would you please do me one big favor? Read this next verse over and over again, until it makes sense to you, and just remember it is God talking to you through John and it is a promise that you can hold God to. To me this is one of the most precious promise in the whole Bible! 1 John 5:10-13 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. Jesus did it all, give up and quit trying, CDBJ |
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1416 | Who were the "sons of God" in Gen 6:4? | Gen 6:4 | CDBJ | 43736 | ||
Dear loved one for whom Christ died, I am afraid that you don't get it yet. Please please please back up what you are trying to prove with what the Bible says by quoting chapter and verse!!!!! CDBJ | ||||||
1417 | Before the Flood | Gen 6:4 | CDBJ | 43710 | ||
Dear misinformed JdthCstl, I would like to apologize for what appears to be my giving you a hard time, for not using Bible verses on a Bible forum, but how else can anyone back up with Scripture what you are telling them, this is a Bible forum not an extension of what my line? People want to know what the Bible says, not your assumptions. Your last thread is the straw that broke the camel's back. You said concerning Jesus, (Salvation comes from him. But we must earn it.) This couldn't be further from the truth and here is the Scripture to back it up. Ephes. 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9Not of works, lest any man should boast. Did you read the part that said, not of yourselves? That mean you can't earn it, it's a free gift! Jesus paid for it or earned it for us. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. If salvation and eternal life are a gift, how can you earn it? You can't! Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; Put all your hope in Jesus and what he did and God will give salvation to you as a gift, just because you trust in his Son. Jesus paid it all, believe it and you will receive it. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: There is no power in what you say there is only power in God's Word! Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. |
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1418 | Who were the "sons of God" in Gen 6:4? | Gen 6:4 | CDBJ | 43706 | ||
Are you inferring that the second person of the trinity was a created being, or that his flesh was procreated ? You also mention that Adam was dead before he was alive, where in the Bible did you find this and if Adam was dead it must have been because he died, this doesn't make any sense, please so Bible verses. 2 Tim. 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. |
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1419 | Bless Israel - say "God bless Israel"? | Gen 12:3 | CDBJ | 43639 | ||
Maybe a sign of the times? 1 Tim. 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; CDBJ |
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1420 | Bless Israel - say "God bless Israel"? | Gen 12:3 | CDBJ | 43508 | ||
Hi Hank, check out the last part of my thread just above yours, I think that might be the answer to all the confusion and lack of Scripture in someone's answers. CDBJ | ||||||
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