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81 | Paul our pattern to follow, not Jesus? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Bereaniam | 169672 | ||
Just to name a few, most Christians believe if they do not tithe they are robbing God and will be cursed with a curse if they don't tithe,Mal. Many Christians believe if a woman wears pants it's a sin, Deut. Some think you have to be circumcised. I know Christians who will not pray without their prayer shawl. Some feel they have to be baptized in the Jordan River, etc. | ||||||
82 | Paul our pattern to follow, not Jesus? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Bereaniam | 169673 | ||
Hey, Thanks Bradk, You are a breath of fresh air for me. If you have been reading my posts and the replies to them, you may understand that I was beginning to believe I was posting rocket science. Your notes have introduced something for me to study and look more into. Thanks soooo much. I hope I can glean more from you on this subject. In Him and He in me, Bereaniam |
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83 | Paul our pattern to follow, not Jesus? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Bereaniam | 169677 | ||
Kalos, do you tithe? Do you know other Christians who tithe and believe that if they do not they are cursed with a curse and that they are robbing God? That's comingling! | ||||||
84 | Paul our pattern to follow, not Jesus? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Bereaniam | 169678 | ||
Kalos, do you tithe? Do you know other Christians who tithe and believe that if they do not they are cursed with a curse and that they are robbing God? That's comingling! | ||||||
85 | Paul our pattern to follow, not Jesus? | 2 Tim 3:16 | Bereaniam | 169740 | ||
Well,Brother Kalos...that's part of what I mean by comingling the old and new covenant. There are many other examples of how we obey the "Law" given to Moses for the Jews and at the same time obey the "Grace Message" given to Paul for the Gentiles (us). In Him and He in me, Bereaniam |
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86 | Are pastors angels? | Rev 2:1 | Bereaniam | 178335 | ||
Thank you kind brother for your reply. The scriptures you cited does not show One Man Rule to me. These are the scriptures you cited: 1 Tim 3:1-7 These verses only give the qualifications for a bishop. Do you consider a bishop to be the same office/gift of a pastor? The word pastor(s) only appears once in the NT. A pastor (also prophet, evangelist, apostle,teacher) is a gift to the Body of Christ. I consider the pastor to be either an elder or an itinerant, at-large gift to the Church. In 1 Tim 5:1, just because it said not to rebuke an elder, how does that mean one-man rule? Does elder in this verse refer to the office of an elder or just a senior (presbyter)? Also this can be said if there are 3, 5, 10, etc. elders presiding. In 1Tim 5:17-19, it said the elders (plural) that rule well... Heb 13:7, 17, and 24 used the plural pronoun THEM. 1Pet 2:25 says the "Shepherd and Bishop of your soul...well this is referring to Jesus...not a pastor. Lastly, 1 Pet 5:1 cites the elders (plural) which are among you... According to my understanding, the scriptures you gave support plural leadership. Bereaniam |
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87 | Are pastors angels? | Rev 2:1 | Bereaniam | 178365 | ||
Brother Kalos, I so respect your wisdom, insight and diligence in contending for the faith in your notes to this forum. I recently (last week) submitted a three page letter outlining the duties of elders, documented with scriptures, to the elders where I "gather", and have gathered for the past 13 years. I let them know in the letter that the pastor rules like a CEO and lords over them (us). I asked them to prayerfully to investigate what I submitted. They are just "yes men" who cower in the pator's presence. At our Saturday night prayer where I attend faithfully (along with usually three or four others, maybe only one of our elders), I was pulled out by one elder and an associate pastor. The associate pastor is a relative of our "pastor" and on the payroll with 12 of their other relatives. He was vehement about the letter I sent out. He said if you don't like the way we run things around here, you should leave...the elder backed him up. I told the elder I just wanted to stir them up to study the scriptures because they are going to be held responsible for keeping out unsound doctrine. One of our elders does not even know who Paul, the apostle was...I asked him. His, Bereamiam |
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88 | Are pastors angels? | Rev 2:1 | Bereaniam | 178366 | ||
Searcher56, I am sorry...but I do not understand your line of reasoning here. Titus 1:5-7 clearly shows that an elder is an bishop. Eph 4:11 clearly shows that a pastor is a gift to the Church. So, if a bishop/overseer and pastor are the same...that would also mean that the bishop is also a gift from God to the Church. Is that what you are saying? I also do not understand what you mean by "it is hard to know if the Holy Spirit was writing to a group of churches"...what difference would that make? Also what do you mean by "it is a minor issue". Is it a minor issue how God's Church is structured? Should the elders have the rule(lead) or the pastor? His, Bereaniam |
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89 | Rev 2 angels: pastors or messengers? | Rev 2:1 | Bereaniam | 179825 | ||
Thanks for your reply, Doc...so is presbyter synonymous with pastor or elder? Bereaniam |
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