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81 | Does faith require maintenance? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34983 | ||
Galilee; So if I read you correctly, you believe faith shouldn't be passive, but rather pro-active in each believer. If thats so, then I would say I agree. In Christ zach† |
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82 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34988 | ||
Benjamite; Because it's late, I will briefly post my thoughts to your questions. you asked; what does it mean to compel Luke 14:23 compel - Greek anagkazo - to compel by entreaties. Certainly those mentioned in Luke 14 were compelled to come to the supper but none were forced to come. concerning verse 44 no man can come except (meaning unless) the Father draw (not drag by force) him. vs, 45 every man that has heard (meaning there was a desire on the individuals heart to hear what was taught.And they are therefore said to be learned. The unlearned turn their ear and have no desire to hear, but instead refuse to hear. vs, 65 alot like vs. 44 be enabled to come is impossible unless one has first be enabled to desire to come. The ability to come must be given by the Father. A W Tozer mentioned the following in his classic book "The Pursuit of God" "Christian theology teaches the doctrine of prevenient grace, which briefly stated means this, that before a man can seek God, God must first have sought the man. Before a sinful man can think a right thought of God, there must have been a work of enlightenment done within him; imperfect it may be, but a true work nonetheless, and the secret cause of all desiring and seeking and praying which may follow. We pursue God because, and only because, He has first put an urge within us that spurs us to the pursuit. "No man can come to me," said our Lord, "except the Father which hath sent me draw him," and it is by this very prevenient drawing that God takes from us every vestige of credit for the act of coming. The impulse to pursue God originates with God, but the outworking of that impulse is our following hard after Him; and all the time we are pursuing Him we are already in His hand: "Thy right hand upholdeth me." In this divine "upholding" and human "following" there is no contradiction. All is of God, for as von Hegel teaches, God is always previous. In practice, however, (that is, where God's previous working meets man's present response) man must pursue God. On our part there must be positive reciprocation if this secret drawing of God is to eventuate in identifiable experience of the Divine. In the warm language of personal feeling this is stated in the Forty-second Psalm: "As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?" This is deep calling unto deep, and the longing heart will understand it." I can go into more detail later if you desire. In Christ zach† |
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83 | Does faith require maintenance? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35026 | ||
Galilee; Thank you my friend for the quick response. You made a comment which forces me to ask another question. You stated: "So we may not be "all" that we can be....how? By neglecting NOT rejecting our faith." I ask the following question not because I disagree with your comment, but I had a verse concerning "neglect" that came to mind. Let me post it now: Heb 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; You mentioned "neglecting our faith" The above verse mentions "neglecting salvation" My thoughts are: faith and salvation differ. by grace are ye saved through faith. Eph 2:8 so once grace has come to us, we then are saved, but, salvation is through faith. My question is: If we "neglect faith" are we at the same time "neglecting salvation" also? Nice to meet you also brother Thank you :) In Christ zach† |
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84 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35264 | ||
Dear brother Adams: I myself have not even scratched the surface of this topic. So I posted it to discuss my findings, wait for correction when needed, and learn from everyone. Brother Tim Moran has made excellent points in this discussion and I too appreciate him very much. We can all benefit from a discussion of this sort. With Christ-like love zach† |
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85 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35310 | ||
I have heard it said that the difference between tribulation and the wrath of God is: Tribulation is Satan's wrath The wrath of God is God's anger which will come upon the ungodly. Anyone care to comment? Here is a few verses with the words "tribulation" and "wrath" Mt 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Rev. 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 1Thess. 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. 1Thess. 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Rev. 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev. 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. In Christ zach_† |
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86 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35348 | ||
Dear brother John; If you go back to the initial post, where I asked this question that started this discussion, you will see that I gave personal background information about my self. In that, I shared, how I began my life with Christ as a Calvinist. I accepted and believed in all the 5 points of Calvinism. I read Calvin. I was taught Calvinism, I fellowshipped 2 or more times a week with Calvinist's. It was only after a long period of time spent in God's word, that the teachings of Calvinism became to appear more and more unScriptural to me. These days, the more I look into God's word, the more I personally see the errors of that teaching. So it's not as if I haven't looked at or ever studied Calvinistic teachings, because I have. These days I get accused of being an Arminian. I have not yet come to the point where I can personally say I am an Arminian. If any of my thoughts seem to reflect the Arminian position on this topic, it is not because I have studied Arminian teaching, rather my thoughts have been formed about this soley due to God's word. Currently I attend and am a member of a Christian Missionary Alliance Church. Now if you check into what they believe, I think you will see that they are not considered as being Arminian. At this time I enjoy attending there, and have felt I have the liberty at this church to express my conclusions drawn from Scripture. In the past seven years, I have taught adult Sunday school classes, and continue to lead an in-home small cell group. Even within the church I attend, we don't all agree with each other on all topics. Among the attenders and members, we have disagreements on things like the timing of the rapture, eternal security, etc. etc. But we do agree that each of us must be convinced about the truth, not through denominational creeds or catechism's etc. but rather be convinced about what we each believe through Scripture, which is our final authority for all faith and practice. I hope this helps you to understand me a bit better. In your reply, you mentioned "Unconditional Atonement" Did you mean Unlimited Atonement. Was that a mere typo? Finally, scripture says: "He died for all" 2 Cor. 5:15 Savation has been made universally available to all. Being made universally available doesn't mean all will be saved. Only those who appropriate that free offer of salvation by faith will receive it. He is the propitiation for our sins, but NOT FOR OUR SINS ONLY, but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:2 Let me finish my reply to you with something I agree with that Calvinist, Charles Spurgeon once said: In his sermon on Sunday morning, March 24, 1861, on Isaiah 1:18, Spurgeon said: Some of my brethren go to the length of asserting that there are no universal INVITAIONS in the Word of God. I have a big net this morning -- Oh, that we might all be caught in its meshes! There is not one of us today who can be exempt from this INVITATION; NONE ARE EXCLUDED hence, BUT THOSE WHO DO THEMSELVES EXCLUDE; With Christ-like love zach_† |
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87 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35360 | ||
Mommapbs; Thank you for you reply. I appreciate the fact that you expreesed your thoughts on this topic. And the following verse you posted is a good one. "For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ" 1Thess. 5:9 In that verse I see that "God has not appointed us for wrath" and I believe thats so. The problem I have is that I don't find a verse that says: God has not appointed us for tribulation. Actually when reading Matthew 24, I see it says: Mt 24:29 IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. In the above verses, the order of things I notice is: 1) tribulation vs. 29 2) they shall see the Son of man coming vs. 30 (see Acts 1:11 also) 3) they shall gather together his elect vs. 31 (the gathering of the elect, comes after the tribulation) To put the rapture before the tribulation, would seem to put it out of scriptural order. With Christ's love zach_† |
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88 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35366 | ||
Makarios; Thank you brother. Yes i am familar with that web-site, and have read Van Kampen's, "The Sign" and other publications of Robert Van Kampen as well. I guess that is part of the reason for asking the question. Shalom zach_† |
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89 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35426 | ||
John; I too hope we can get to better know each other, through this forum and our correspondance. Which denomination did you belong to before joining the PC USA? I agree the Holy Spirit is the only teacher which is referred to as the Spirit of truth and He has promised to guide us and teach us (John 14:26 and John 16:13 Also: "ye need not that any man teach you" 1 John 2:27 Below are a few questions we need to ask ourselves: Are the Holy Scriptures or the majority of popular teachers who hold to a particular doctrine the deciding factor that makes that doctrine correct? Are the notes in a study Bible inspired, like the actual Scriptures, or can these notes reflect the erroneous views of the commentator(s)? Are religious creeds and confessions man-made and, therefore, possibly in error? If a creed, confession, synod, etc. is contradicted by Scripture should we immediately reject it? Since many with an earned doctorate degree contradict each other and themselves, doesn't this further prove spiritual understanding doesn't come that way? Lastly: a quote by my favorite Christian writter: “The Scriptures, to be understood, must be read with the same Spirit that originally inspired them.” A.W. Tozer Grace and peace zach_† |
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90 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35427 | ||
Hank; I personally doubt that Calvin would recognize what Calvinism has become. Consider the following: on John 3:16, Calvin said: ". . . The Heavenly Father loves the human race, and wishes that they should not perish.''11 Concerning the term whosoever in the same verse, he said: "And he has employed the universal term whosoever, both to invite all indiscriminately to partake of life, and to cut off every excuse from unbelievers. Such is also the impact of the term world, which he formerly used; for though nothing will be found in the world that is worthy of the favour of God, yet he shows himself to be reconciled to the whole world, when he invites all men without exception to the faith of Christ, which is nothing else than an entrance into life.'' John Calvin, Commentary on the Gospel According to John (Grand Rapids: Wm. Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1949), I, p. 125 The fact is the limited view of atonement was not popularly held until the Synod of Dort (1619) and the Westminster Confession of Faith (1647) long after Calvin’s death. I also don't consider myself to be an Arminian or a Calvinist. I would prefer to be called a Christian Bibilcist. one says I'm an Arminian, another says I'm Reformed, still another says I'm Baptist, another I’m Wesleyan. Was Christ divided, or were you baptized in the name of Calvin, or Arminius (my paraphrase of 1 Cor.1:12-13). Peace in Christ's name zach_† |
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91 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35442 | ||
I was just re-grouping my thoughts and thought I should mention that what I believe in is universal invitation to salvation, but not universal salvation itself. Only the invitation is universal. Scripture is clear not everyone will eventually be saved. It is only those who will respond and appropriate the free offer or gift of life by faith, that will eventually be saved. Peace and love zach_† |
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92 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35445 | ||
Mommapbs; Thank you once again: Just one quick thought: Notice in Matthew 24:29 It mentions "the tribulation" singular, not plural. It isn't referring to trials and tribulation(s) (plural), but rather THE TRIBULATION. Peace and love zach_† |
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93 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35514 | ||
Mommapbs No problem; However, in Matthew 24:31 we see the elect, are still around after the tribulation mentioned in Matthew 24:29. Peace Grace and love zach† |
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94 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35516 | ||
Brother John; Thank you for that Tozer quote. I have read that quote a few times in the past. I have read most everything of Tozer several times, and enjoy re-reading him when others quote him as well. And I agree with Tozer on everything I have read by him to the best of my recollection Thank you once again; Grace and Peace zach† |
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95 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35539 | ||
Dear John in light of your statement which I now quote: "Christ is made known and held out to the view of all, but the elect alone are they whose eyes God opens" I ask you to consider the following scripture: John 1:9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. Jesus gives light to EVERY MAN THAT COMES INTO THE WORLD. To me that would indicate that every man born physically into this world has received light. No man that has ever come into the world can blame God for not receiving enough light to move them to either 1) respond to the light or 2) reject the light and bring damnation upon themselves. However in the end they will be without excuse. Rom. 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE: Grace and Peace zach† |
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96 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35557 | ||
Brother John I too enjoy all our discussions; To answer your question to the best of my knowledge: You asked: "My question is: Why do some men hate the light but other men love the Light." Scripture says: John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. John 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. John 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. They enjoy sin and evil deeds, and reject what light they have been given. Grace Peace and love in the precious name of Christ Jesus our blessed Savior and Lord. zach† |
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97 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35560 | ||
Mommapbs; The only thing that truly matters in any discussion of scripture is that we agree with scripture. The problem in incorect interpretation of scripture concerning this topic is that it could lead some to believe that the tribulation could not come in their life-time, because they have been told that they will be raptured before the tribulation. And if that is not true then when the tribulation comes, they will be confused, becasue they have been told that they would not be around when it happens and be caught off guard. So thats why it's important. Scripture has the final say. It's the final authority for all faith and practice. God richly bless zach† |
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98 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35561 | ||
CDBJ; To that I say AMEN and AMEN zach† |
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99 | Is Limited Atonement Bibical? | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35588 | ||
dear brother John; When I personally consider an answer to any question, I first must see what scripture says: Secondly, I begin to collect my thoughts, whether correct, or incorrect, considering such things as the fall of the human race through the sin of Adam, and how everyone since the fall has been born dead spiritually, with an inherited sin nature. and cannot will to please God. But at the same time I also believe that when regeneration comes to the individual, and that from God. We then have been given new natures, our will to do good and please God has been restored back from the original fall. But at the same time when the light comes to many individuals, they reach for the light switch and say no thank you to the light they received. But if I go any deeper into this topic then I would have to bring up the fact of how I also disagree with the "Irresistable Grace" of TULIP also, and seeing how the initial question was concerning "Limited Atonement" also called "Particular Redemption" I will try to stick to the initial question, and reserve the "Irresistable Grace" thoughts for later. Those are just some thoughts I share about my line of thinking, and when all is said and done, I still have to go back to scripture, as I know you also do to find correct answers concerning spiritual matters. May God richly bless you as you daily spend time alone with Him in His word zach† |
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100 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35589 | ||
Mommapbs; I do respect your right to hold to whatever it is you believe about this topic or any other topic. I sense a note of being offended, in this reply from you. My intention in discussing this topic wasn't to offend. I merely wanted to discuss this topic with anyone who CHOSE to do so. Grace peace and love zach† |
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