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501 | explanation to rev:1-3 | Revelation | Tamara Brewington | 203703 | ||
Revelation 13:1-3, verse 1: the dragon is Satan and he was standing amongst the multitude of people (sea shore), the beast is the Anti-Christ the person and he was coming up out of the nations (sea) and he has authority over seven nations and ten kingdoms and he has blasephemous names written on his authority. Verse 2: the Anti-Christ was full of the power of the nations and Satan gave him his power and his seat of authority in the world. Verse 3: The Anti-Christ or one of the heads of a part of his kingdom (theologians are in disagreement as to which)is literaly slain and then literaly is raised from the dead in a mockery of the rising of Jesus from the dead. And because of this evil miracle by the power of Satan, rising from the dead of Anti-Christ or his head of state will cause the whole earth to be amazed and they will follow him (verse 4 then says they will worship him, which is why most theologians say it will be the Anti-Christ who will rise from the dead and not a memeber of his courts). | ||||||
502 | how do you understand rev | Revelation | Tamara Brewington | 203771 | ||
The word Revelation is Apocalypse in Greek, which means to unveil. John received this unveiling from an angel who received it from Jesus Christ. Revelation is broken into 7 parts; The Vision chapter 1, The Message To The Churchs chapters 2,3, A Revelation of Heavenly Vision chapters 4,5, God's Judgment on the Earth chapters 6-19, The Second Coming of Christ chapter 19, The 1,000 Year Millenial Kingdom chapter 29, The New Heaven and New Earth chapters 21-22. The characteristics of apolaypitic literature is that it includes synbolic discriptive language. Verse 1:19 gives us a picture of how the book is to be viewed,past; chapter 1-John writes about having been spoken to about the announcement of the revelation, present chapters 2,3 John writes to literal churchs a message for each in his present time, future chapters 4-21 John writes about events to happen in future. Next comes a book, actually a scroll, that no one can open except Jesus and in it are contained 7 seals of God's judgment on unbelievers sybolized as 7 trumpets that will be blown for real by angels at the beginning of each judgment to come; war, famine, death, martyrs, terror, the bottomless pit, army from the east, and the angels gathered to begin blowing the 7 trumpets of judgment, this is chapters 5-11. There is the woman who represents the bride of God the church and the baby is Jesus, there is the red dragon who is Satan, and there is the war in heaven between Arch-angel Michael and Satan the dragon and Satan is thrown down to earth for the second time forever(the first was in Daniel where he is described as the highest Cherubim)in chapter 12. There is the dragon, Satan on the sand of the sea (the multitudes of people on the earth) and the beast, the Anti-Christ comes up out of the sea (all the nations) and the Anti-Christ has all the characteristics of the nations (he was like a leopard and so on), and Satan gives the Anti-Christ his throne of power on earth and authority to rule the earth, then the Anti-Christ is killed and actully rises from the dead as a miracle to mock the power of Christ and the whole world is amazed and begins to worship the Ant-Christ, then the next beast arises on earth and this is the False Prophet who will testify of the Anti-Christ as God and he has all the authority and power of the first beast, this is chapter 13. There are the 144,000 real sealed human servants of God who are going to proclaim the gospel to the unbelivers. Then there are the 7 bowls of wrath; the giving of the mark to those who worship the Anti-Christ, the destruction of the sea by blood, the destruction of the rivers and springs by blood, the scorching of men on the erath by the sun, darkness over everything in the earthly kingdom of the Anti-Christ, the drying up of the river Euphrates to make way for the nations to come through for war against God, the greatest earhquake to ever come upon the earth, in chapter 16. Then comes the destruction of a real place on earth symbolically named Babylon where the Anti-Christ rules the earth from in chapters 18,19. Then comes the angels worshiping in heaven about the victory Jesus and God against the Anti-Christ and the whole world and there is the war that Christ will wage by Himself with all the raputured glorified saints from heaven looking on against the Anti-Christ, the False Prophet and the unbeleivers and the Anti-Christ and the False Prophet get thrown in the eternal lake of fire, in chapter 19. Satan gets bound for real and thrown in a pit for a thousand years for real and Christ sets up His 1,000 year Millenial Kingdom until He lets Satan out after 1,000 years, then Satan deceives the unsaved children of those who got saved during the Great Tribulation and wages war against Jesus and the saints (this includes regular people who got saved during the 1,000 years and the glorified raptured saint who come back to earth to rule with Jesus), Satan loses the battle and is thrown along with his followers into the eternal lake of fire and whoever's name is not found in the one book of life, but whose name is found in the many books of the damned will be thrown into the lake of fire at the Great White Throne Judgment, in chapter 21. Then God destroys the old earth and universe and remakes everything using what is left of what He destroys and there is a new heaven and a new earth, then a real city, New Jerusalem comes down to earth to replace the one that He destroyed and Jesus glory is so bright that it is the light of that city, consider the USA is 3,500 miles across, this new city is 1,500 miles across both width and breadth inside the city is the tree of life from the garden of Eden and the river of eternal life, then there is a parting message from John. | ||||||
503 | Satan in prison for 1,000 years? | Revelation | Tamara Brewington | 203772 | ||
This is a future event that has not happened yet, it happens after Christ comes back to rule the earth for a 1,000 years Millenial Kingdom after defeating the Anti-Christ and the False Prophet in Revelation 19-21. Nothing in Revelation has happened yet except chapters 2,3, contrary to popular belief, all we know is that we are seeing wars and rumors of wars, like Jesus said we would. However, the apostles thought they were near the end too for the same reason people do now. You can't even believe that Satan has been locked up yet, just look around... He is still on the job... | ||||||
504 | When was Revelations written. | Revelation | Tamara Brewington | 203840 | ||
Revelation not Revelations there is only one Revelation not several, that is first. Next, Johnn wrote Revelation about 95 AD, after the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD to the seven churchs listed in chapters 2,3. He was giving them prophetic warning of what would happen directly to their churchs in chapters 2,3, the rest of Revelation was referring to the distant future, contrary to some commentary. The warning contained in the rest of the book apply to the distant future. Some commentaries like to see Revelation as a duoble prophecy like some that occured in the OT, but it's not that. Their reason is that because Rome did fall they see the great harlot of Babylon as being both Rome then and Rome now. The other theory these theologians have that dove tails with this idea that it is mostly about Rome as a world power falling twice is because of the rise to power of the Catholic church through the centuries and they see this as the world wide political and religious machine that the great harlot Babylon represents because in chapter 17 this is talking about the destruction of the religious Babylon world system and chapter 18 is talking about the destruction of the economic Babylon world system which are both run by the Anti-Christ and then both ancient Rome and the Catholic church are seen by them as being the Anti-Christ. They see the Anti-Christ as being Ceasar of ancient Rome and the Pope of modern Catholicism. This overlooks that not enough of the prophey ever came true in the time of Ceasar when Rome fell and that the Anti-Christ must fulfill certain prophecies that have not yet come to pass, like dying for real and raising from the dead by the power of Satan, like the False Prophet arising and doing miracles in order to testify of the Anti-Christ by making an idol that speaks, like the absence seen in Revelation of the church no longer being spoken of as being on the earth after chapter 3, like smome of the seals of judgment falling to earth. But these commenators get around this by saying it has not yet occured to the Pope and the Catholic church that they have risen to this height of power and that the judgment has not yet fallen down to earth. The predictions are more about the destruction of the entire world before and during the rule of the Anti-Christ who is a real person and the False Prophet who is a real person and about the desctruction of the religious and economic system they will create and rule over and it is also about the desctruction of whichever actual city that the Anti-Christ rules from and about the destruction of all the unbelievers in chapter 19 than it is about the destruction of Israel. Israel has yet to rise to power as the Bible predicts it will in Revelation and then the Anti-Christ will desacrate a new temple that will have been built there. A lot of people see Israel as well on its way to having been risen to power already, but they miss the fact that God has not yet called all the Jews back to Israel in the way the Bible described it. People don't like to hear this neither Christians who are in favor of Israel at present nor Jews who revere their holy land. But the fact is Israel is going to be re-set up by the Anti-Christ and given back as a false gesture to the Jews who will flock to the holy land enmass in a way we have not yet seen. And it won't be accomplished by taking Palestine by force from the Palestinians. The destruction of Israel will be accomplished by the Anti-Christ who is the one who will turn on them and pour out his wrath because the Jews will refuse to worship him and he will defile their newly built temple. And this is why the Israel we see now is not the Israel that will come to power, the Anti-Christ is not yet on the scene and the temple has not been rebuilt yet. | ||||||
505 | who torments in the lake of fireer | Revelation | Tamara Brewington | 205612 | ||
Dear n8, I do believe that God is the owner of hell and the lake of fire, two different places though; Jesus speaks of hell in Luke 16 as being a place of torment, then in Revelation we hear of the lake of fire in 19. God made the heavens He made heaven itself, since He created everything He also created hell and the lake of fire for the wicked. Hell is going to get thrown into the lake of fire though and who ever is in their in hell is going to come out and receive immortal bodies capable of buring for ever as they are resurrected to receive the Great White Throne judgment - John 5, Revelation 20. God who created all of the elements in the lake of fire and of hell set these places up as places of infinite and eternal torment and of burning fire. Is it not God who punishes all sin? Is it not God who has a promise to visit wrath on the unjust? I don't think God stands there in hell stoking fires, or that He needs anyone else to either, I think He set it up as a place that is perpetually burning as how He set it up to keep operating and give folks an immortal body to endure puniishment forever. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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506 | Interpretative Schools? | Rev 1:1 | Tamara Brewington | 204468 | ||
The Two Preterist Views 1)The final judgments in Revelation are about Rome and Jerusalem and Jerusalem is Babylon the Great. This Preterist View does not explain why Jesus did not come, or why the two witnesses did not come, or why Abomination of Desolation did not come, or why the world wide destructions of the earth did not come, or why no one received a mark of the beast. The list can keep right on going. 2)The final judgments in Revelation are about the fall of the Roman Empire with Rome as the Great Babylon. The same problems exist with this view as the first one. The Two Historic Views 1)Revelation is a charted history of events, the past Revelation 1:19 – John speaks of the past the announcement of the vision in 1, John speaks of the present the message to the seven churches in 2and 3, John speaks of the future in 4-22. The only thing that remains is to see the events unfold because the Bible is the inerrant word of God. Those that have a problem with this view are concerned with where we now are in time because they are not sure when the future part begins in history. There is a simple answer to this, we now have wars and rumors of wars and that is all we can say for sure. 2)Revelation is history, but the message to the churches is figurative and applies to both John’s day and to continuing history as a message to church types. This view often identifies the Catholic Church as Babylon the Great with the first beast as a pope and the second beast as his false prophet. The problem with this view is that it will be impossible to know for certain what all the symbols mean until they happen. Some have already interpreted the symbols as having occurred. The Futurist View 1)Revelation from 4 on is about the future and is largely seen as dispensationalist as the final two divisions of God’s history with man. Some futurists believe the church will be raptured before the 7 year Great Tribulation, some do not. The judgments happen in sequence during the 7 years or are varying descriptions of the same events. Those who have a problem with any futurist view are concerned with whether or not the book has a practical application right now. They ignore what John says in Revelation 1:3 that whoever reads the book of Revelation will receive a blessing and that they should pay attention to what is written in it, which surely is giving instructions for an application as to continued perseverance in the faith and good conduct. The Two Idealist Views 1)Revelation is purely symbolic of the ongoing struggle between God and Satan and is about everything that has occurred and that will occur between them and the symbols don’t represent real historical events. The problem with this view is that it removes the possibility that Jesus will actually come back and conquer and rule the earth and reduces God’s sovereign involvement in history to the symbolic fight between good and evil. 2)Revelation is purely symbolic literature because Revelation defies a literal interpretation of what the author’s intent was to his audience, but can still as symbolic literature, adhere to the history of redemption. This allows for an application for today of the symbols found in Revelation as a heavenly perspective on earthly events. The problem with this view is that it minimizes the prophetic nature of the message by making it a be a reapplication of the message to uncertain events in the present or future without allowing for a literal interpretation of a past, a present or a future, as John declares it to be, and relegates the prophetic nature of the Revelation to mere symbolism. The Historical View With The Futurist View 1)The first historical view with the futurist view combined present a very good case for a reliable view that incorporates the apocalyptic language and the prophetic nature of Revelation and is a fifth rarely presented view. Revelation is an apocalypse containing material combining symbolic descriptuve language with prophecy. These two elements have to be considered in determing what John's intent in writing it was. We can't just say it is purely symbolic based on Revelation 1:19 because John says it is about the past, present, and future, which makes it historical. We can't say it is purely historical because John is prohecying so it has to also be about the future which had not happened yet, or has not happened yet. We can't say it is purely symbolic because it contains a message to a church in his day and because it is about the past, present, and future. But we can say that it is about history, the future and that it uses symbolic language to describe future acts of judgment and that it is prophetic. That is why I believe the fifth veiw is the correct one to hold. The Preterist view has too many errors to be true. God Bless, Tamara |
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507 | Interpretative Schools? | Rev 1:1 | Tamara Brewington | 204485 | ||
Oh Dear Doc, I am dying to know abuot the partial preterist! Please enlighten a poor soul such as myself, please, pretty please Doc.. God Bless hat lady |
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508 | Interpretative Schools? | Rev 1:1 | Tamara Brewington | 204504 | ||
Ok Doc took the time to go find out... For real Doc, this is what you like :)? Your favorite, or you were joking (no problem if you weren't)? hat lady |
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509 | Interpretative Schools? | Rev 1:1 | Tamara Brewington | 204546 | ||
Hi, Dear Val, Perhaps you can see from what I found by googeling the words why I was asking Doc if he was joking? But perhaps this is not the only partial preterist view out there. I went first to your site preceptaustin.org, then I went to gotquestionss.org, then I went to wikipedia, but eventually I setteled on somehthing bigger I found while googeling from a non discript site. The jist of what I could get out of it was that Partial Preterism is about; Those who hold to partial preterism believe that the prophecies in Daniel, Matthew 24, and Revelation, with the exception of the last 2-3 chapters of Revelation, have already been fulfilled and were fulfilled no later than the first century A.D. However, the partial preterist view may not have good biblical support. Those who hold this view do not interpret these Scripture passages books in a normal sense, but rather interpret them allegorically. As an example, Daniel 9:26-27 refers to Christ rather than to the antichrist beast who will appear in Revelation, for the beast, see 11:7 and chapters 13 thru 17, with 13 being quite extensive. In Daniel 9:24-27, Daniel is given a message from God by Gabriel 9:21 Daniel is told that God had decreed 70 weeks for his people, the Israelites, and that these 70 weeks were to 1 finish transgression; 2 make an end of sin; 3 make atonement for iniquity; 4 bring in everlasting righteousness; 5 seal up vision and prophecy; and 6 anoint the most holy place. Per Daniel 9:25-26, 62 plus 7 of these weeks 69 times 7 is 483 years passed and ended with the crucifixion of Christ Messiah will be cut off, v.26, with 1 week 7 years left to finish God's decree. Verse 26 also says, The people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. This speaks of the Roman Empire destroying Jerusalem and the temple, which occurred in A.D. 70. It should be noted that the prince was yet to come; only the people of the prince were the ones who destroyed Jerusalem. This also tells us that the antichrist/beast will come from a future revived Roman Empire. Verse 27 tells us more about this future world ruler. It says that this prince will make a covenant with many for one week, the 70th week is 7 years. Halfway through these seven years, he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering. This indicates that temple worship will be revived by Israel in the latter time, and he will put a stop to it. The last two phrases in verse 27 are what Christ referred to in Matthew 24:15. Christ called this future ruler the abomination of desolation. From Daniel 9:27, Matthew 24:15, and Revelation 13, we discover that this ruler will set himself in the future temple, proclaiming himself to be God, and demanding that the world worship him. Revelation 13:5 also confirms that it will happen at the midpoint of the seven-year tribulation period, for it says that he will be given authority for 42 months which equals 3 and 1 half years. Those who hold to partial preterism twist that which is recorded in Daniel 9:26-27, saying that it refers to Christ, not to the antichrist beast. A normal reading of Daniel 9:24-27, Matthew 24, and Revelation 13 will clear up a lot of the confusion. Those who hold to partial preterism also do not read Matthew 24 in a normal sense. Christ spoke of the destruction of the temple in A.D. 70 24:2. But much of what He spoke of did not occur in A.D. 70. Note that Daniel foretold that the people of the prince to come would destroy the temple and Jerusalem. Christ speaks not of the people, but of the prince to come, the abomination of desolation. Christ describes that future time as one of great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened Matthew 24:21-22. Christ also says, Immediately after the distress of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory Matthew 24:29-30. In order for the events of Matthew 24:15-30 to have already occurred, Christ would have returned bodily in A.D. 70, He did not. The partial preterist believes that this does not refer to a bodily return of Christ, but rather an appearing of His judgment. This is not what a normal reading of the text would lead anyone to believe. Tamara |
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510 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204838 | ||
According to the New Testament, Ephesus became an important center for early Christianity from the 50s AD. Paul used it as a base and spent there more than two years on his third missionary journey (Acts 19:8, 19:10, 20:31). He became embroiled in a dispute with artisans, whose livelihood depended on selling the statuettes of Artemis in the Temple of Artemis (Acts 19:23–41). He wrote between 53 and 57 A.D. the letter 1 Corinthians from Ephesus (possibly from the "Paul tower" close to the harbour, where he was imprisoned for a short time). Later Paul wrote to the Christian community at Ephesus, according to tradition, while he was in prison in Rome (around 62 A.D.) The Apostle John lived in Asia Minor (Anatolia) in the last decades of the first century and from Ephesus had guided the Churches of that province. After Domitian's death the Apostle returned to Ephesus during the reign of Trajan, and at Ephesus he died about 100 AD at a great age. Ephesus was one of the seven cities addressed in Revelation (2:1–7), indicating that the church at Ephesus was still strong. Two decades later, the church at Ephesus there was still important enough to be addressed by a letter written by Bishop Ignatius of Antioch to the Ephesians in the early 2nd century AD, that begins with, "Ignatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church which is at Ephesus, in Asia, deservedly most happy, being blessed in the greatness and fullness of God the Father, and predestinated before the beginning of time, that it should be always for an enduring and unchangeable glory" (Letter to the Ephesians). The church at Ephesus had given their support for Ignatius, who was taken to Rome for execution. Smyrna...Christianity was preached to the inhabitants at an early date. As early as the year 93, there existed a Christian community directed by a bishop for whom St. John in the Apocalypse (i, II; ii, 8-11) has only words of praise…There were other Christians in the vicinity of the city and dependent on it to whom St. Polycarp wrote letters (Eusebius, "Hist. Eccl.", V, xxiv). When Polycarp was martyred…the Church of Smyrna sent an encyclical concerning his death to the Church of Philomelium and others (Vailhe’ S. Transcribed by Lucia Tobin. Smyrna. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XIV. Copyright c 1912 by Robert Appleton Company. Online Edition Copyright c 2003 by Kevin Knight. Nihil Obstat, July 1, 1912. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York). Pergamum - I googled the church of Pergamum to death and found very little about the history of this church. Pergamum, also known as Pergamos, had a colorful history as a major city of Asia Minor. It was steeped in pagan idolatry, serpent worship, and Caesar worship. See Satan's Throne at Pergamum for a description of the influence of ancient Babylonian mysteries on the city. Pergamum means "thoroughly married." It represents the period of church history when the church became married to the world. Constantine, the Emperor of the Roman Empire probably meant well when he issued a decree that all his subjects should become Christians, but it actually did much damage to the church. The majority of people became Christian in name only, bringing their pagan practices and lifestyles into a compromised church. This merger of the church and state took place with the Edict of Milan in AD 313. This period lasted until about AD 500. During this time the Bishop of Rome assumed the title, Pontifex Maximus. |
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511 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204839 | ||
Thyatira - There have been a couple of differences of opinion about when the Thyatira era began and ended. Thyatira - Herman Hoeh (Hoeh, H. A True History of the True Church, 1959 ed.) and Ivor Fletcher (Fletcher, Ivor C. The Incredible History of God's True Church, 1984 ed.) both wrote that it began about 1000 A.D. However, the Worldwide Church of God (WCG) later changed to the belief that it began a little later, closer to the beginning of the twelfth century, with the Pergamos era transitioning out in the eleventh century. WCG also changed its view that the "last work" of Thyatira was around 1238 AD to around 1600. In Dr. Hoeh's book, he has Thyatira ending in the mid-thirteenth century, and remaining in hiding, until the Church re-emerges as Sardis beginning in the mid-seventeenth century. WCG's later correspondence course suggests that the work of the Thyatira era ended in the late sixteenth/early seventeenth century; which is the same position that the Living Church of God's (LCG) John Ogwyn took in his booklet. Sardis - I googled this to death too, nothing on the history of this church. Now that I have researched this for you I am going to have to buy a New Book somewheres on the history of the seven churches past the first century, thank you for giving me a new area of study to kill myself with. I appreciate it:):):) Philadelphia - I also googled this church extensively to no avail. Laodicea - I also googled this church to no avail. There has been a ton of allegorical and symbolic interpretation about the 7 churches, which is outside of a literal intrepretation of the Bible; 1)The message to the 7 churches represents 7 types of churches that present themselves through out all of the centuries as church types, and Jesus was giving good and bad examples as a warning to all churches from the 1st century on into the future. 2)The message to the 7 churches represents 7 church ages from the first century through the present, and Jesus was giving a picture of what the 7 church ages would look like and be characterized by. 3)The message to the 7 churches represents 7 types of Christians who are in the church body, and Jesus was giving good and bad examples of being a member in the churches. 4)The message to the 7 churches represents 7 types of churches in the first century, and Jesus was giving good and bad examples to all the churches in every where in the 1st century of how to run a church. There is only one literal intrepretation of the 7 churches in the Bible; 1)Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things written in it; for the time is near, Jesus was giving His assessment of the character and actions of the 7 specific churches, which He choose according to His own counsel to give the 7 churches instructions in order to encourage them and to prepare them for persecution and to bring them back into the will of God wherever they had strayed. The application comes from Revelation 1:3; heed the message for the time is near - the time for the devil to mess around and the time for persecution is always now - we can give this literal interpretation; we should pay attention to the various admonitions Jesus gives the churches and be on the alert against the schemes of the devil and persecution from the enemies of Christ, and we can be cleanse our chruches of any defilement or wrong doing and go back to our first love of Christ. Agape, Tamara |
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512 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204842 | ||
Dear Doc. Thank you for the reminder Doc, I was so busy gathering I forgot to site the all the various places this part came from and part of the second part too, but the very last part on the second post was all me. I aplogize to every one on the forum and to the Lockman Foundation. I got the majority of the quotes from wikipedia and the Catholic Enyclopedia. All of the parts at the end of the second post that had to do with interpretations whether allegorical or literal with the application was all me. God bless Tamara |
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513 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204843 | ||
Dear Doc and Lookinforacity. Thank you for the reminder Doc, I was so busy gathering I forgot to site the all the various places this part came from and part of the second part too, but the very last part on the second post was all me. I aplogize to every one on the forum and to the Lockman Foundation. I got the majority of the quotes from wikipedia and the Catholic Enyclopedia. All of the parts at the end of the second post that had to do with interpretations whether allegorical or literal with the application was all me. God bless Tamara |
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514 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204844 | ||
Dear Doc and Lookinforacity. Thank you for the reminder Doc, I was so busy gathering I forgot to site the all the various places this part came from and part of the second part too, but the very last part on the second post was all me. I aplogize to every one on the forum and to the Lockman Foundation. I got the majority of the quotes from wikipedia and the Catholic Enyclopedia. All of the parts at the end of the second post that had to do with interpretations whether allegorical or literal with the application was all me. God bless Tamara |
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515 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204926 | ||
Dear Lookinforacity, I saw my pastor to night in bewteen classes at school and asked him where to point you towards to get more of a real answer. He told me that we could find out exactly what we want to know by looking through the records of the writtings of early church Fathers; Iraneus, Martyr, Polycarp, also perhaps Clement of Alexandria, Ignatius, Papias, Barnabas, Tatian, Tertullian, Origen, Lactantius, Eususbius, Hipploytus and the list can go on and on. Here go to this site and you will find most of these authors and perhaps you will find the information; http: double slash forward www.ccel.org single slash forward index single slash forward subject.html God Bless Tamara |
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516 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204928 | ||
My mistake, I though I couldn't do that Lookin I though we were not allowed to past url's I think I have this site's rules confused with the ohter site I tried for a while - www.Biblediscussion.com not a very good site... a whole lot of non Christians in there boy and they have debates and scientists and Muslims and aetheist and you can say and do anything you want to in there and it was a real mess the way they post things and such. They locked me out for some reason, I can't post there anymore... No reason given, their posting system really sucks bad and you always lose whatever you were doing if you go back a page. People send you private messages in there which you can't receive or open left for you at their site too and you have to cut and paste their url's that they send in order to receive a note. Their post system brings everyone's comments back to you instead of to who was in the thread answering someone esle, they don't really have a thread, just one big open long page per question. I received some insultig and demeaning replies from a sicentist in there, over there anything goes... Oh well I am rambling, so here is a scripture; II Timothy 2:15,16 God's day to you, try www.preceptaustin.org and see if you can turn anything up there too. Tamara |
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517 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204931 | ||
Every one please pray for my swollen ankles and feet, the hat lady. Sorry John, I am wasted and now I am up late looking through page after page of doctor's addresses and afiliations over here in the middle of the darn night because my ankles and feet are so swollen I can't wear my shoes without great pain. It has been three weeks now and the coverage folks are not cooperating with sending the info. Please pray for me, I should have emailed you instead, just too tired to switch over, got too many windows open. So for my sin of being chatty, narf, here is another scripture; James 5:13-16 say I confessed my sin for the day of being chatty on the forum, so does that mean I can get healed now John:))))))) Yeah that other site is really a work over. I don't care a fig that they banned me... or whatever happened. Oi Vay is schmere! No I am not Jewish just a po little uneducated shmuck who tried to find a non swear swear word... |
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518 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204936 | ||
Oh my dear Azure! How am I to excersie on ruined feet! But perhaps that is part of how they got that way, could be high blood pressure or my kidneys again. Thank you much for your sweet prayers! Tam |
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519 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204960 | ||
Dear Val, I am sorry you were so offended by the words boy and sucks and that you feel it was so unprofessional. Perhaps it was unprofessional of me Val, the word suck was realy apt to the situation, but I could have used a better word, but I fail to see how the word boy, which just denotes surprise, was unprofessional. I didn't know boy and sucks were slang words though any more than the word mess would be. I guess we all have different concepts of what slang words are. Point taken though, thanks Tamara |
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520 | The 7 Churches of ASIA | Rev 1:4 | Tamara Brewington | 204968 | ||
Dear Val, I have been corrected and told that my apology was not sincere becasue I explained my reasons for using words instead of just aplogizing and it was seen as a back handed apology. I did not mean it that way, again, I sincerely aplogize to you if I was offensive Val, no offense was intended. Please forgive your sister in Christ, I repent. Tamara |
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